Best Animated Films
Animated films: they ain't just cartoons anymore. Nor have they been for quite some time. RT celebrates the imaginative, dazzling world of animation with out countdown of the best-reviewed animated films of all time.
Like the world of animation itself, our list of the Best Animated Films is wonderfully diverse: we've got Disney classics (Snow White and the Seven Dwarfs), dreamlike anime (Spirited Away), gleefully surreal foreign entries (The Triplets of Belleville), blissful stop-motion (Chicken Run), and of course, CGI from the mighty Pixar Studios (Toy Story). In short, we've got something for everyone: kids, grownups, fanboys, and arthouse types.
Before you start raising hackles about the fact that, say, The Secret of NIMH isn't represented here, allow us a second to explain our parameters. Each of the films presented here has at least 20 reviews in order to maintain a measure of critical weight. We also omitted such classics as How the Grinch Stole Christmas that were made for television.
We hope you're drawn to our list of the Best Animated Films!
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on Sep 24 2008 03:21 PM Kung Fu Panda ahead of Bambi and Little Mermaid? For shame.. (Reply to this) |
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on Sep 24 2008 04:13 PM How can Chicken Run be ahead of Spirited Away and Persepolis? (Reply to this) |
on Sep 24 2008 04:32 PM bambi? good lord... Wall-e? good lord... Monster's Inc.? good lord... NO SURF'S UP? good lord... Terrible entry you guys, terrible. (Reply to this) |
on Sep 24 2008 04:47 PM Toy Story 2 in no way deserves to be at the top of the list. It is Pixar's worst movie (well...it's down there with Cars). Wall-E should have been #1 easily. (Reply to this) |
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on Sep 24 2008 05:13 PM In reply to this comment (#2044712) This list is laughably HWD-one-eyed. Not to mention the lack of Chinese animation classics like The Monkey King, numerous Ghibli-studio masterpieces are missing completely. I'm no animation specialist, yet I can immediately think up Porco Rosso, Tonari no Totoro, Hotaru no Haka (Grave of the Fireflies) and Mimi wo Sumaseba (Whisper of the Heart) which all belong in the top 25, most top 10. Well, this is what you get when people who don't know film and are just crowd-pleasing make silly lists. (Reply to this) |
on Sep 24 2008 05:17 PM AL_X, the problem is that there simply aren't enough reviews for things like Porco Rosso and Grave of the Fireflies to be included on the list. And in case you missed it, we're ranking these according to critics' consenses (with some adjustments for the amounts of reviews), and not our personal own personal tastes. (Reply to this) |
on Sep 24 2008 05:49 PM I think this is an admirable list. I'm thrilled to see two Nick Park films and The Iron Giant on the list. Sad that Yellow Submerine got on the list and Heavy Metal didn't. I really liked Road to El Dorado, but I know it did dismal box office and won't make two many lists. Sigh! (Reply to this) |
on Sep 24 2008 06:08 PM Bambi was a sadistic film. . .Walt Disney, before he believed in Cryogenics, thought the tears of children would give him immortality. (Reply to this) |
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on Sep 24 2008 06:14 PM Oh, I didn't get to look at the whole list. Can someone please tell me: Is Felix the Car on there? Heavy Metal? or one that I really hope is on there: A Scanner Darkly? (Reply to this) |
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on Sep 24 2008 06:19 PM This is rediculous. Most of Miyazaki's movies didn't even make the cut. How is Shrek the 2nd better than Castle in the Sky, Nausicaa, Kiki, Porco Rosso and others. These movies are some of the best animated movies and some of the best movies of all time. How is Takahata's Grave of the Fireflies left off. Any list that has Kung Fu Panda and Shrek 2 in it is not credible. Beauty and the Beast, Akira, Lion King, Aladdin, Miyazaki films, and others should be in the top ten. This list is flawed to the core. (Reply to this) |
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on Sep 24 2008 06:34 PM Akira isn't top 10? Damn. . . I am surprised. Ireally liked Princess Mononoke, but I guess that isn't top 10 either. Sigh. (Reply to this) |
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on Sep 24 2008 06:41 PM In reply to this comment (#2044597) Chicken Run ahead of Spirited Away??!! Thanks for the heads up. I won't even bother looking at this list. (Reply to this) |
on Sep 24 2008 06:44 PM Come on folks, give them a break. They did the best they could according to the critics. If they didn't use the critics as the measuring stick, they would just be picking their own favorites. (Reply to this) |
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on Sep 24 2008 07:10 PM In reply to this comment (#2044878) Or they'd be making a list of, ya know, best animated films. ;-) (Reply to this) |
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on Sep 24 2008 07:37 PM In reply to this comment (#2044873) Chicken Run = 98 % Spirited Away = 97 % Thus Chicken Run > Spirited Away. (Reply to this) |
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on Sep 24 2008 07:50 PM Spirited Away is much better than Chicken Run. . . LIes, Lies, and statistics. (Reply to this) |
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on Sep 24 2008 07:51 PM Hahaha: "Chicken Run > Spirited Away." Fantastic Planet? Waking Life, and/or A Scanner Darkly? Guess they don't have suitable tomatometers... (Reply to this) |
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on Sep 24 2008 07:59 PM How could they forget Peter pan? I mean seriously... Also Titan A.E. , The Secret of Nym and what about An American Tail. Meh :( (Reply to this) |
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on Sep 24 2008 08:05 PM In reply to this comment (#2044944) I know, right!? The mere suggestion, bizarro tomatometer aside, is just plain old garden variety ridiculous. (Reply to this) |
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on Sep 24 2008 08:14 PM What a piss poor list. (Reply to this) |
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on Sep 24 2008 08:17 PM In reply to this comment (#2044908) Touché. (Reply to this) |
on Sep 24 2008 08:48 PM Boy, you nimrods just can't get what the theme of EVERY SINGLE RT list is: it just places movies based on their tomatometer score. So quit your stupid griping at RT and start griping at the critics, because THEY are the ones who made the lists the way they are, NOT RT. And if you can't handle that, stop reading the lists! Pretty simple, huh? GET A CLUE!!! (Reply to this) |
on Sep 24 2008 08:55 PM Wall.E will always rank first on my list. (Reply to this) |
on Sep 24 2008 09:15 PM i was impressed that they didn't just sit down and make a list of favorites thats the easy way out of it. they went by critical consent, so, no reason to complain really. granted shrek should have been higher on the list. (Reply to this) |
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on Sep 24 2008 09:15 PM i was impressed that they didn't just sit down and make a list of favorites thats the easy way out of it. they went by critical consent, so, no reason to complain really. granted shrek should have been higher on the list. (Reply to this) |
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on Sep 24 2008 09:39 PM i don't agree with the order but for the most part i agree with the picks the top 20 were all great films and the top 10 are all masterpieces in animation. oh i love it when people refer to movies in their original name and then english translation i.e. Hotaru no Haka (Grave of the Fireflies). "i can't believe they left out hotaru no haka (grave of the fireflies for those that aren't as knowledgeable in film as i am)." wow your knowledge of film sure is impressive you know the original japanese name. (Reply to this) |
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on Sep 24 2008 09:57 PM Spirited Away should have been AT LEAST in the top 10, and especially above something so stupid as Chicken Run. And what the hell is with Wallace and Gromit being ahead of Howl's Moving Castle? Art vs. Crappy British Clay. Art wins. (Reply to this) |
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on Sep 24 2008 10:03 PM It's always amazing to see people in the comments pushing their own opinion on what's the best as being more valid than the system used; a consensus based on critics ratings and review numbers. If it wasn't that way, we would be looking at the opinions of whoever wrote the article, which I guarantee would upset as many people as the current list. At least this way we have a somewhat objective (based on subjective reviews granted) way to measure "top animated films". After that short rant, it's not necessarily how I would rank my favorite animated films, but I am just overjoyed to see animated films with such high recognition. Animation is one of my favorite art forms, and I am always sad to see it often discounted as "for children" or being "lacking in artistic value". There is a lot of good animation in that list, and I appreciate it for that! (Reply to this) |
on Sep 24 2008 10:10 PM you know a list is in trouble when South Park the movie can barely crack the top 50 and crap like Shrek 2 is ahead of it. Oh, and I almost died laughing seeing Antz at #21.. seriously RT how do you expect us to respect you? Also, why is the #49 film higher than south park? South aprk had a higher fresh rating than that film? So, before everyone starts saying, well the list is based on rt fresh meters, well think again!! Jeez, I'm so depressed that RT has failed again so miserbly to put a plausible, let alone intelligent or respectful, list out. (Reply to this) |
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on Sep 24 2008 10:12 PM In reply to this comment (#2044847) This probably explains why most disney movies have such gut wretching moments. No, Felix the car (or cat) did not make the list. (Reply to this) |
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on Sep 24 2008 10:27 PM Wow. While I certainly don't agree with the order of everything on the list, I think it's ridiculous to start trashing brilliant films, just because they ranked higher than one that you personally liked better. And to the person who said Toy Story 2 was one of Pixar's worst films... You might be the first person I've seen that actually dislikes that film. I can't think of many sequels that lived up to and even surpassed expectations the way Toy Story 2 did. (Reply to this) |
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on Sep 24 2008 10:28 PM In reply to this comment (#2044970) If you hadn't noticed, some of the movies were not ordered by ranking: The Rescuers (83%) was ahead of Watership Down (85%), and Paprika (82%) and Fantasia (84%) were ahead of both those films. Ratatouille beat Persepolis, although Persepolis was ahead by 1%. Oh well, the fact that it lost to Ratatouille in the Academy Awards Best Animated Film probably did that. (Reply to this) |
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on Sep 24 2008 10:38 PM It's a shame more people haven't seen "The Plague Dogs." Much better than "Watership Down." At least "Over the Hedge," and "Open Season" aren't on there. I know it's by tomato meter, but seriously, due to Eyvind Earle's contributions alone, "Sleeping Beauty" should be higher. (Reply to this) |
on Sep 24 2008 10:54 PM And still no Aqua Teen Hunger Force. Yeah I know it was based on critics score and its my own personal choice, but dammit.....freakin hilarious. (Reply to this) |
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on Sep 24 2008 10:54 PM And animated. (Reply to this) |
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on Sep 24 2008 11:00 PM ...I just don't think Roger Rabbit should count as an animated film... (Reply to this) |
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on Sep 24 2008 11:11 PM This list is so bad that I created a user name to express my disgust. When I saw how far down beauty and the beast was I thought huh wonder whats coming up. Obviously no thought was put into this list. Very dissapointed. At least it seems like most animation fans agree. (Reply to this) |
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on Sep 24 2008 11:17 PM In reply to this comment (#2045201) Jesus. You're right. No thought was put in this list. Thats because this list is a ranking of Tomatometer scores! (With some adjustment for films with more reviews) Sorry, RT, I apologize on behalf of the human race for being a bunch of idiots who can't take two seconds to read a description. I, personally, like these countdowns even if I disagree with them drastically. Keep up the good work! (Reply to this) |
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on Sep 24 2008 11:29 PM I would really like to know: Why do you guys not use the average rating of the film as a tiebreaker if 2 or more film's have equal tomatometers? "Pinocchio" avg. rating 9.2. "Toy Story 2" avg. rating 8.5. I don't think its fair towards older films to use number of reviews submitted since clearly newer films have the advantage there. I wasn't much of a fan of "Enchanted", but regardless, if you include a live action-animated hybrid like Roger Rabbit then shouldn't Enchanted be on there because of a 93% tomatometer. (Reply to this) |
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on Sep 24 2008 11:33 PM ok maybe its just me but here are a few films missing..... land before time, heavy metal, american tail, hercules, brave little toaster, sword in the stone, little nemo, all dogs go to heaven, beavis and butt head do america (ok so it was bad but a litle good also). oh ps Rock-A-Doodle!!!!!!!!!!!! (Reply to this) |
on Sep 25 2008 01:15 AM I can forgive a lot of things, but a list of the top 50 all time great animated films that doesn't feature Martin Rosen's amazing adaptation of Richard Adams' "The Plague Dogs" in the top 5 amounts to crap. Nothing against some of the titles mentioned (I happen to be a fan of "Wall-E", "Chicken Run" and "Finding Nemo" in particular), but does anyone else think RT was shilling for Disney here? "Toy Story 2" is the best animated film of all time? Y'know, you smoke enough of that stuff and lists like this are the consequence. (Reply to this) |
on Sep 25 2008 02:11 AM ...was a little dissapointed w/ this list. Here are a few that I think should also have been included: Perfect Blue Ninja Scroll Time Masters Strings Cat City (Reply to this) |
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on Sep 25 2008 04:31 AM Wow, you people are beyond retarded. The list is more or less based on the RT rating. Granted there are problems such as older films not having enough reviews to potentially place higher. But the thing is, it wouldn't matter who put the list together, there will always be people who dislike the list because their personal favorites are not on there. Any list would be lucky to even have a 33% syncro with any single individual. (Reply to this) |
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on Sep 25 2008 04:50 AM I think the most hilariously ironic thing about this entire affair is this; virtually everyone taking issue with the list are expressing their contempt for, well, the list, while virtually everyone else is wasting space attacking them. The funny part (sad? typical? maladroit?) is that the latter group, in their infinite pseudo wisdom, are the ones getting all adversarial and name calling like a bunch of children. I don't usually have a problem with the RT staff, happen to enjoy even when they chime in on the conversations from time to time, but I'm afraid that using the tomatometer to judge "best" anything, especially animated films, is dubious at best. The result of which is a list, like this one, missing far too many films that are worthy of their honor. The criteria for this list definitely should have gone beyond the tomatometer, which, as we all know, is far too often populated by some pretty fulsome critics. (Reply to this) |
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on Sep 25 2008 05:39 AM I agree with the comments that this list is awful, but I also understand that it was done purely by critic consensus. RT, why not post the critics' list next to your own list, and say here's what they say, here's what we say? That way you don't make yourselves look silly... Putting Wall-E at number 5 or whatever, when it hasn't even stood the test of a whole year!?!? Some good points: 1.Pixar got a lot of love, which it deserved. 2. Snow White is one of the most grating, annoying heroines ever. Her voice makes me cringe every time I hear it. Still she deserves to be highly ranked as the first ever animated film. 3. Miyazaki got good recognition, deserved more... Final question: How did Lion King and Beauty and the Beast not make it higher? Those films are masterpieces! (Reply to this) |
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on Sep 25 2008 05:39 AM This list stinks. I love this site but the lists are horrible. Any movie that is not mainstream gets no reviews and does not make the list. At least a few Japanese films made the list. (Reply to this) |
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on Sep 25 2008 05:45 AM I accept the rule of the game - this is a top 50 animated films according to the tomatometer. I cannot accept (because I don't understand) why are exceptions made. I watched the list only to find out where "Animal Farm" stood. Answer - nowhere. According to the rule of the game, it should be somewhere in there (has a 83% tomatometer). Can anyone (from RT or else) explain why? (Reply to this) |
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on Sep 25 2008 06:27 AM Tarzan made the list? Were these critics bombed or something? (Reply to this) |
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on Sep 25 2008 06:31 AM In reply to this comment (#2045062) I will agree that Howl's Moving Castle had beautiful animation. But critics are judging more than the visuals when they judge a film. Wallace and Grommit had a heart and cleverness that HMC lacked somewhat on. IMO that's what propelled WAG above HMC. Plus, who could argue what a technical achievement WAG was; more thought and detail went into it than "normal" animated flicks. Research the claymation process sometime, it's fascinating. (Reply to this) |
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on Sep 25 2008 06:43 AM If it wasn't purely based on RT ratings, I'd demand that this list be cast away to Never Never Land. Yeah, that's right people...all you afficiandos and movie buffs who put your 'yay' or 'nay' ratings on line have made a collective mistake in not giving due credit to one of Disney's most endearing classics: Peter Pan. As far as opinion goes, feel free to "grow up" a little and recognize masterful storytelling. (Reply to this) |
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on Sep 25 2008 07:43 AM i honestly think lists like this are not the best way to rank movies as the best ever. Some movies with only a few reviews get incredibly skewed and in no way are representative of which movies are best. Lion King had 5 bad reviews (from non-top critics and 100% fresh from top critics) and was lower on the list than it should have been because of that. (Reply to this) |
on Sep 25 2008 08:12 AM Where is Hercules, that's top 5 ever at least. I agree that Titan AE should be there. But Hercules has at least 90%. Nightmare before christmas before Incredibles makes me sick. I'm nit picking here, it was all right over all (except no Hercules). (Reply to this) |
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on Sep 25 2008 08:15 AM In reply to this comment (#2045066) I know but Hercules by rt standards could of totally been on it. (Reply to this) |
on Sep 25 2008 08:42 AM 101 Dalmations shouldn't be on the list. Looking at that film even sideways reveals some shameful shortcuts and poor editing. Animation aside, it has one of the worst villains of all time and little to no plot. The Rescuers is cut from the same mold as 101 and shouldn't be there. The animation is a little better but the story and the characters are one-dimensional and lifeless. Mulan is debateable. Shrek 2 should be higher on the list; it's still a stunner to watch. Incredibles should be closer to #1. Animation doesn't get much better, and the story/script/characters are top-notch. Cinematic perfection has its closest contender in the Incredibles... Regardless of animation. (Reply to this) |
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on Sep 25 2008 08:50 AM why was chicken run in the top 10? how could you rank toy story 2 ahead of toy story??? and why was the emperor's new groove nearly at #40??? and kung fu panda and the simpson's movie? give me a break, what an awful list. (Reply to this) |
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on Sep 25 2008 09:17 AM What about Ghost in the Shell!? It has a well-deserved 94% and 31 counted reviews. And it hasn't even been mentioned in the comments so far... (Reply to this) |
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on Sep 25 2008 09:27 AM I understand that the list is determined by the Tomatometer, and not by somebody sitting in a room moving titles up and down wondering where "Dumbo" belongs, but something still confuses the heck out of me. Why is it impossible to find a critic who doesn't like "Snow White?" It's always near the top of every list and it's at a 100% right here. I'm a massive animation buff myself so even I know that it has the whole "first animated film ever" thing going for it, but on the whole, the story was pretty dated and shallow. And the last 10 minutes of the movie never sat right with me, like how the final battle involves seven armed men chasing a fragile old woman through the forest, or how the dwarfs just let this douchebag stranger ride up on a horse and start making out with Snow White's corpse (props to Walt Disney for making necrophilia look like a magical enchanting experience.) You'd think after 90 years, a critic might just throw up their hands and say "This movie doesn't work for me anymore." I'm perfectly fine with most of the list otherwise. "The Incredibles" may always be my favorite, but a lot of the old classics like "Fantasia," "Pinnochio," and "Sleeping Beauty" are right at home here. (Reply to this) |
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on Sep 25 2008 09:53 AM In reply to this comment (#2045731) What's the point of mentioning Ghost in the Shell? That just opens up an entirely new can of worms! I think it goes without saying. And considering how embarrassingly hackneyed this list already is, I personally am glad 'Ghost in the Shell' wasn't touched and dutifully insulted with, say, a number 29 ranking or something. Sweet Jesus! Just the passing mention of 'Ghost' brings to mind so many other great films that effectively render most of those that stole honor on here look like stick figure flip books by comparison. (Reply to this) |
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on Sep 25 2008 09:58 AM I know they based it strictly on the T-meter plus the number of reviews but even according to their own system, it's very flawed. They are missing tons of movies that should be up there compared to what actually is. I would much rather see a list of the RT staff's top 50 animated films of all time. I think they could even let people mail in their top 50 and make a top 50 based on an average of a 1000 different fan lists. Either would be a much better list than this one. There are just hands down favorite movies that might not have had a ton of reviews or had the luxury of a T-meter rating when they came out and by the time they are rated, they just don't seem so epic or groundbreaking so don't have a fair rating. Just the fact that Akira isn't in the top ten means the system is flawed. Ask any fan of animated films and it will easily be in the top ten of 99.9999999% of fans' top ten lists. A truly accurate list would likely include most everything Miyazaki. All the Disney classics would be in there too. Stuff like "Who Framed Roger Rabbit" should not make any such lists. Good for it's time but I don't consider it an animated movie. Do us justice next time RT and not base lists purely on critic ratings. (Reply to this) |
on Sep 25 2008 10:14 AM Agreed with Toy Story 2 being number one...and yes, why is Roger Rabbit there and not Enchanted? And why is Shrek 2 there but not Cars, or the incredibly good Monster House?? Why?? (Reply to this) |
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on Sep 25 2008 10:40 AM Like another poster, I registered on this site ONLY to voice my disagreement with this list. Toy Story 2 as #1? This is asinine. I won't put the movie down, but I was incredibly bored by it. I also, like another poster, feel that some of the older films were disregarded because they didn't have enough reviews to pump up this stupid tomatoemeter. I like most of Pixar's stuff, but to put Toy Story 2 as the number 1 rated animated movie of ALL TIME!?!?!?!? They just threw this list together and posted it for some clicks. I haven't seen any other lists, and now I don't think I'll ever want to. (Reply to this) |
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on Sep 25 2008 11:00 AM I have found a major flaw in Wall-E's tomatometer. Kyle Smith's review from page 3 of "Wall-E" is deemed negative with a 2.5/4 rating he issued to it. Yet, this same critic gave "Lakeview Terrace", "Nick & Norah's Infinite Playlist", and "Appaloosa" the same exact score of 2.5/4 yet those are deemed to be positive. Can someone explain this? (Reply to this) |
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on Sep 25 2008 11:54 AM Also, both Willie Waffle and Mick LaSalle from page 5 gave "Wall-E" a 2.5/4, but they are deemed fresh. Either Willie Waffle's, LaSalle's and Kyle Smith's reviews should all be designated as positive or all be negative. (Reply to this) |
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on Sep 25 2008 12:14 PM What are all these asian movie everyone whining about? Never heard about them, never saw them on DVD anywhere and even never seen them in theater or in videoclub anywhere! Or maybe they just didn't came out where I live (Quebec, Canada) Could it be possible?. (Reply to this) |
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on Sep 25 2008 12:16 PM In reply to this comment (#2045805) Monster House? I bought that, watched it once, and then gave it away. Yuck. Basing lists off of the Tomatometer may seem silly, but really, is there any other site that you could get this kind of info? Other sites will give you lists of their preferations, but RT will give you a list by the numbers, and annoying as that can be, I find the RT lists fascinating. (Reply to this) |
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on Sep 25 2008 12:47 PM I declare this list null and void without The Secret of Nimh (94%) or Rikki Tikki Tavi. (Reply to this) |
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on Sep 25 2008 01:12 PM Right off the bat, this list is awful. South Park at number 50? That was a hell of a lot better than most of the movies ahead of it. Should have been in top 20, at the very least. (Reply to this) |
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on Sep 25 2008 01:13 PM Right off the bat, this list is awful. South Park at number 50? That was a hell of a lot better than most of the movies ahead of it. Should have been in top 20, at the very least. (Reply to this) |
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on Sep 25 2008 01:13 PM Pretty good list only how the f**k does Toy Story 2 beat out Toy Story 1. That's bull. (Reply to this) |
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on Sep 25 2008 01:13 PM yea! how about NO!!!!!!! Toy Story 2!?!?!?!?!?!? are you ****ing kidding. Toy Story is, by far, better than Toy Story 2. What did you base this list on anyway? some of these were so ridiculous! Shrek 2 made it on the list but Shrek the Third didn't make it???? how does that happen? Shrek 2 kinda sucked! And I can;t say I agree with you Wall-E placement either. Nemo beats Wall-E any day. But Toy Story 2 at #1 just really pisses me off. I think you put it there just to get these shocked comments. let's see the real list please!!!! (Reply to this) |
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on Sep 25 2008 01:16 PM OH and to all you Anime freaks..... SHUT UP!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! (Reply to this) |
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on Sep 25 2008 01:37 PM In reply to this comment (#2045929) Oh my, chuchunezbie has spoken everyone. We must listen or else! (Reply to this) |
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on Sep 25 2008 01:43 PM Id put in Nº1 nightmare before christmas, just because i love the film. I dont think toy story 2 is better than toy story, its a great film, but not better. (Reply to this) |
on Sep 25 2008 02:29 PM Though i had a few mior disapporvals of the list, the main one that gets me is how the hell Antz git on there??? and to boot rated hire than Kug Fu Panada?? What crappy list of animation. there are quite a bit more animated films deserving of this list. (Reply to this) |
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on Sep 25 2008 02:33 PM In reply to this comment (#2045786) Chill. (Reply to this) |
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on Sep 25 2008 02:33 PM In reply to this comment (#2045929) fool. (Reply to this) |
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on Sep 25 2008 02:40 PM People need to remember what the RT meter and therefore this list rewards: being at least pleasantly entertaining to as many people as possible, not necessarily being anyone's favorite. Toy Story 2 is a perfect example. Despite its number one ranking, I doubt that many people would put it number one on their list, myself included. However, I dare you to find a movie that is as impossible to dislike, which is why it's number one under this system. As for my own tastes, Toy Story 2 would certainly by top ten, but I was stunned to find my number 1, The Lion King, down at 24 and then Beauty and the Beast just a couple spaces higher. Wow. (Reply to this) |
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on Sep 25 2008 02:48 PM Good list, very interesting. It'll prompt me to put a few DVDs on my wish list for sure. Sorry not to see My Neighbour Totoro on there (Michael Eisner said it was his kids all time favourite!!!). It's certainly in my top 3 animated films. But I understand it came out a good few years back, before western film reviewers had really noticed anime.... (Reply to this) |
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on Sep 25 2008 02:48 PM Good list, very interesting. It'll prompt me to put a few DVDs on my wish list for sure. Sorry not to see My Neighbour Totoro on there (Michael Eisner said it was his kids all time favourite!!!). It's certainly in my top 3 animated films. But I understand it came out a good few years back, before western film reviewers had really noticed anime.... (Reply to this) |
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on Sep 25 2008 04:17 PM One of the worst thing RT ever done. 101 dalmatians in front of Lion King and Aladdin? (Reply to this) |
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on Sep 25 2008 06:24 PM This is awful. The Yellow Submarine scores higher than Princess Mononoke?! Cinderella ahead of Howl's Moving Castle?! I hate film critics now. At least most of the Pixar films were consistently high on the list. Also, I agree with some of you guys that there are a lot of Ghibli classics missing from the list. Also, although this might be a controversial statement, but I think a lot of these Disney movies are overrated. I believe the Disney gets credit for being the first ones to discover animation principles still used today. However, I think eventually, someone else would've discovered them. (Reply to this) |
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on Sep 25 2008 06:24 PM In reply to this comment (#2044656) "bambi? good lord... Wall-e? good lord... Monster's Inc.? good lord... NO SURF'S UP? good lord... Terrible entry you guys, terrible." Congratulations, you made me rage harder towards a movie-related comment than I can possibly remember. The wanting-Surf's-Up-on-the-list line alone is enough to make my eyes pop out from the intense blood pressure. (Reply to this) |
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on Sep 25 2008 06:59 PM a decent list at best, but it's so hard to do best of lists with just the critics consensus. Since many people tend to disagree with them. Plus the older movies don't have as many reviews as the newer ones. I had no idea Toy Story 2 had a perfect tomatometer. It is a good movie, but other Pixar movies like Ratatouille (did i spell that right) and Wall-E easily outshine it. It's a shame not any of Ralph bakshi's movies aren't on here. Fritz the Cat, Coonskin, Heavy Traffic, and his version of LOTR are reallly good. (Reply to this) |
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on Sep 25 2008 07:57 PM While you guys are worried about the ranking of the movies, I'm more worried about how they decided to choose white text on a light background. Sure you can highlight the text each time to read it . . . But for 50 freaking pages?!?! Come on RT. Now I'm 20 and thankfully my vision isn't that terrible, but for the sake of the older members, PLEASE have some common sense when you're designing your web pages. (Reply to this) |
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on Sep 25 2008 08:04 PM For all the people whining about Toy Story 2, it is the only "animated" movie to win a best "picture" golden globe, thats right, at the time when the best animated category wasn't even started, I for one agree that toy story 2 is a superior movie than Toy Story and arguably the best sequel to any movie. Now as far as anime is concerned I feel sorry for collex and all the other ignorant lot. I have recently discovered the world of anime, and these are some of the best movies I have ever seen not just as animated but as well as live action, the quality and variety of original story telling is outstanding. I agree with Matanuki Hayao Miyazaki, Takahata, Satoshi kon, Yoshiaki Kawajiri, Rintaro, Mamoro Oshii, Katsuhiro Otomo and many more are great artists and story tellers that deserve a list of their own, as putting it alongside disney kiddie flicks isn't really fair. It is very sad that their movies havent received enough reviews to warrant a well deserved place on any list. (Reply to this) |
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on Sep 25 2008 08:19 PM Oh yeah almost forgot the critics really need to analyze their opinions, Antz is fresher than a bug's life is absurd. A bug's life is a far superior film technically and story wise with more or less the same premise. This was the beginning of dreamworks lifting pixar ideas. Further examples finding nemo and shark tale, monster inc. and Monster vs aliens, The incredibles and matermind. the only thing they have is shrek and madagascar which they are milking like there is no tomorrow. the original ones are by aardman. (Reply to this) |
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on Sep 25 2008 08:23 PM For a couple months now I've been looking at RT's top 50 lists, and I think I've figured them out. There is really no logical point in making them, since they tell little about the comparative qualities of the films mentioned. Their function therefore is simply to generate protest against their terribleness, and, through protest, more hits. Which is basically how RT's parent site IGN works with its video game reviews, but I digress. Oh, and to toss in my two cents, I think the Lion King is probably the best animated film ever made. But then, I'm not 30 reviewers who write for distinguished (and not-so-distinguished) periodicals. (Reply to this) |
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on Sep 25 2008 08:33 PM Dear RT, I feel so sorry for you guys... I've been coming here for so many years now and absolutely love the site and the work you guys do, but I almost can't stand this stuff anymore. I mean, if it bothers me so much, I can only imagine how much it kills you when you get to see from these comments what kind of 'community' you have. You've put the work in, made a good list, and put it out for discussion. And then you'd expect a good debate between movie-lovers right? Maybe next time, don't include actual numbers, or better yet, just say every movie is the winner. One pleasant surprise though is that no one has come in yet demanding The Dark Knight to be number 1... (Reply to this) |
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on Sep 25 2008 08:33 PM The list wasn't that bad, but its only natural for people to disagree. Don't really understand Chicken Run being so high, and think that snow white is overrated. But overall, it was interesting to read. I think they should make one with their opinions, just so I can see Beauty and the Beast, Lion King, and Akira in top ten. But then again I really don't care. (Reply to this) |
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on Sep 25 2008 08:36 PM In reply to this comment (#2046440) Really Antz was much smarter and more lush then a bugs life and Bambi should have beat Snow White. It was much better in everything. (Reply to this) |
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on Sep 25 2008 08:42 PM Wow, this list made me actually create an account just because it didn't feel right to not post my dissatisfaction with this list. I agree with the Miyazaki fans out there- there is no way Spirited Away missed the top 5 and Shrek 2 beating out Howl's Moving Castle... Grave of the Fireflies, Porco, Nausicaa, Totorro, and Castle in the Sky have all easily earned spots on the list. Even the great Disney movies in the 90s- Aladdin and Lion King not close to top 10? I don't know how else to say it besides this list is flawed and useless. They got a couple right and many wrong. And I think with a strong majority of these comments disagreeing, we can say take this list back and try again. (Reply to this) |
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on Sep 25 2008 08:56 PM Calm down people give RT a break. This is not the definitive best animated movie and I doubt there is anybody on this planet who can make. RT just edit the title as Best Animated movies according to T-meter to end this debacle. (Reply to this) |
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on Sep 25 2008 08:58 PM definitive best animated movie list I meant, and guys please add an edit feature. (Reply to this) |
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on Sep 25 2008 09:17 PM realrecognizereal, what is really wrong with Chicken Run? It had great characters, a fun and entertaining story, and fantastic claymation. I agree that maybe it won't stand out as one of the most memorable animated movies of all time, but you can't really dislike it, which is the same reaction critics had, and therefore it scores really high on this list. jbiwan, ah, the Miyazaki fan. You people can be scary sometimes... Just kidding, I have to admit, I thought Spirited Away was mind blowing. But I watched that movie when it came on TV one night and I knew absolutely nothing about it. I have since made many other people watch it, and after talking it up so much, they didn't quite match my enthusiasm. My only rationalization is that it is slightly less accessible to westerners. And that can possibly explain why some of the other movies you mentioned didn't rate highly. This site is probably slightly more skewed to western movie (not the cowboy kind :P) and that would result to less reviews/scores for anime for example. And also, some people will probably disagree with this, but box office numbers and worldwide popularity does count for something. I, although an avid movie-goer, have never heard of Grave of the Fireflies, Porco, Nausicaa and Totorro. You might just call me ignorant, but if I make the greatest animated story of all time, but only a handful of people see, then no one will talk about it in 50 years time. So while there are some old classic Disney movies on that list, I didn't see any classic old anime movies. How do I know if they just weren't any or if they just didn't get enough attention? Either way, it won't stand as a classic, because not enough people know it. (Reply to this) |
on Sep 25 2008 09:41 PM What the eff? I cannot comprehend how the utterly magical Spirited Away or Princess Mononoke or Iron Giant did not score higher on that list. I also can't comprehend how Wall-E isn't number 1. Or how Shrek and its sequel got up there. But, that's my opinion. *shrugs* Not going to bite people's heads off. (Reply to this) |
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on Sep 25 2008 10:01 PM In reply to this comment (#2046448) Go ahead and slap yourself, papouse. Why in all sam hell would anybody suggest that The Dark Knight be no. 1 on a BEST ANIMATED FILMS list? Find a way to pull your head out of that a$$ and I might be inspired to send you money for achieving so great a feat. Forgive me, I don't usually express this kind of anger on these boards. But I'm particularly disgusted with otherwise intelligent people saying stupid sh.it in a miscalculated effort to land a point that would be better served with logic. This is a horrible list, man. Acknowledge it, or present a reputable contrary argument. Short of that, you're just spitting in the wind. (Reply to this) |
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on Sep 25 2008 10:31 PM The primary flaws with these lists are the dependence on the Tomatometers. Toy Story 2 may be #1 on the list, but it was far from the best animated film ever. Sure it would still probably be in the top 10-15, but I would rate the original TS and the first 3 Disney animated films higher. As for Pixar movies, Finding Nemo is still the best one. And I'm sure the omitted films from this list have already been spoken for. (Reply to this) |
on Sep 25 2008 10:47 PM I disagree. I really, really disagree. Why is Toy Story 2 on top? Why the hell is it #1? And why are we doing all these Top X Number lists? Shouldn't we do them only once in a while to make them special occasions? But you've opened a big can of worms, because tons of animated films are treated like second class citizens in our world. You got some great films on your list, but because there are so many animated films in so many genres, you were bound to disappoint. Animated films shouldn't be lumped together this way anyway. Again, you caught some of the great films, like Yellow Submarine and Watership Down. But what about the films of Don Bluth, like Land Before Time? And what about the cartoons made for adults? Woah, you're gonna get it now! Where are Ralph Bakshi's films, like American Pop and Heavy Traffic, or the all-famous Fritz the Cat? Where's Heavy Metal? Waking Life? What about the excellent Fantastic Planet? And dare I venture into Japan for films to slap across your faces? Akira and Paprika are there, but what about Grave of the Fireflies, or My Neighbor Totoro, or Perfect Blue, or Ghost in the Shell, or, hell, the Evangelion movies? Of course Disney takes a giant share of the spots. And recent films by Pixar and Dreamworks grab positions. Spirited Away gets in there because John Lasseter gave out blow jobs to make sure Miyazaki finally got some attention. But let's face it: the international animation community got shafted in this survey. The adult animation community, too. To your credit, though, there was almost no way you could do this list right. (Reply to this) |
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on Sep 25 2008 11:09 PM Hey Matanuki, how's it going? Hmm, I guess that Dark Knight joke didn't go down to well... I was referring to the general state of RT comment threads, and how they're filled with overly zealous statements. You know, people seeing things mostly from their side, trying so desperately to convince the world that their view is the only view. No? Not getting that sentiment at all? Maybe it's just me then. So since you obviously disagree with the list, how can you see it being done better? Would you rather RT didn't look at what critics said, but rather use their own opinions to make a list? What makes you think that the list in any other order would have garnered less anger from people that felt 'their' movie didn't win or wasn't included. It's based on numbers and statistics. That seems to me to be a fairly straightforward and objective way to do it, doesn't it? And don't forget that the top 30 movies were separated my about 10 points, which means that they pretty much all can be considered 'the best' if looking at it subjectively. Just a quick question about Wall-E, since I'm pushing this whole 'discuss the movie' thing. Also, this is a about the ending, so if you haven't seen it, avert your eyes! I felt that Wall-E should have remained 'reset' at the end. I think it would have probably been the greatest movie I have ever seen had that been the case, and people would have remembered it even longer than they will now. The people I saw it with generally disagreed, and considering it's a 'kids' movie, I can understand the risk with doing that, but I still feel like they should have taken that chance to further elevate it to greatness. Anyone feel the same, or would like to tell me to pull my head out of my a$$? (Reply to this) |
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on Sep 26 2008 12:42 AM It's nice list but it's missing some more asian flavor. Regardless, only four actual animations have ever made me laugh out loud: Kung Fu Panda, Shrek, Emperor's New Groove, and South Park. In my book that deserves extra praise. (Reply to this) |
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on Sep 26 2008 12:56 AM In reply to this comment (#2046550) My top 5: 5. Ghost in the Shell 4. The Lion King 3. Spirited Away 2. Wall-E 1. The Dark Knight (Reply to this) |
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on Sep 26 2008 01:46 AM Anyone who said A Scanner Darly deserves to be on any list of good movies is completely insane. By far the worst, most boring, unentertaining, bull**** movie i've ever seen. And then every nerd on the planet starts commenting how 'this asian classic' or 'that asian classic' or 'this film no one's ever seen' and 'this film that is pretty rare but i watched it so that makes me a connoisseur of animated films'. What the majority of people don't understand is that the list is a simply a list containing films that are well known, heavily reviewed, reviewed very well, or a combination thereof. (Reply to this) |
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on Sep 26 2008 03:13 AM i cant believe this...i mean im shocked...people have opinions...no, it cant be true. I dont agree with parts of the list but meh, they stick to a system so you really have nothing to complain about in regards to the list. Furthermore, the people listing obscure Asian offerings are hilarious considering that 99% would have no clue what movies you are talking about and in that vein it is perfectly fair to omit them from any list that is generally regarding common movies. (Reply to this) |
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on Sep 26 2008 04:42 AM In reply to this comment (#2046554) Cheers papouse, Gotta tell ya, your comment reached me at a moment when I was in an incredibly bad mood for entirely unrelated reasons. Seeing the Dark Knight joke, thus, inspired a reactionary response akin to your inspiration to make the joke in the first place. You're right, after all, a lot of people have been saying a lot of mind bogglingly stupid things in relation to TDK and Iron Man over the past few weeks, especially on the sequel speculation boards that morphed into vacuous comparison arguments. I digress. However, I can't accept this list or any, for that matter, based on numbers and statistics. Numbers and statistics, as we all know, are often if not always fallacious, and have ruined many lives. I don't trust numbers and statistics in any platform, as I don't think that any thinking person should. That some do shocks the senses, and upsets me beyond the function of any personal preference. I am betrayed perhaps by my own literary background in that I take the title "Best Animated Films" by its literal implications. If they wanted to compile a list of 'best reviewed on RT' films then, well, they should have called it that. Of course, they're known for giving their articles very misleading titles in the sole interest of getting hits. A very cynical process, I think. Though I obviously am quite fond of the RT staff and their work, I am like James Baldwin in that I tend to criticize harshly that which I adore. It's kind of like the way I feel about cops arresting people on domestic calls even though there was no violence and though the matter was resolved by the time they arrive, behaving this way in the interest of a backwards law that requires they act like zombies and ignore their better judgment. These fulsome critics that stink up the numbers and statistics with their vapidly contemptuous rants are far too often out of tune with what general audiences actually like. And even then, like one poster above suggested, a great many stellar films and incredibly impressive artistic undertakings by masters deserving credit never even reach a mainstream American audience or their stolid critics, thus never getting the opportunity to be judged by an already flawed and exclusionary system. The RT staff are entirely aware of this, but like those zombified cops, they proceed forth in compiling "best of" lists that go against their own better judgment, resulting in utterly misleading bullsh.it like this one right here. (Reply to this) |
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on Sep 26 2008 06:42 AM The List is what it is. Frankly, I'd have liked to see "Kiki's Delivery Service" and "Whispers of the Heart" in there, as well as the others mentioned above as missing, but hey, you can only squeeze 100 in a list of 100. Is it me, or do the Top 100 Animated Films have higher ratings than the Top 100 Science Fiction Films? Gotta check on that. Sounds like cartoons > sci fi. (Reply to this) |
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on Sep 26 2008 07:39 AM So Paprika is the only Satoshi Kon film here, even though Toyko Godfathers and Millenium Actress have better tomato rankings AND substantially more than 20 reviews? Not cool. I can't say I love the list, but at least it works by your rules for the most part, except for this. Millenium Actress is one of my favorite films, and you've just decided to ignore it. Well, I think I'll take a similar stance to your lists. (Reply to this) |
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on Sep 26 2008 07:40 AM So Paprika is the only Satoshi Kon film here, even though Toyko Godfathers and Millenium Actress have better tomato rankings AND substantially more than 20 reviews? Not cool. I can't say I love the list, but at least it works by your rules for the most part, except for this. Millenium Actress is one of my favorite films, and you've just decided to ignore it. Well, I think I'll take a similar stance to your lists. (Reply to this) |
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on Sep 26 2008 07:42 AM what about secret of nimh (Reply to this) |
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on Sep 26 2008 07:43 AM what about secret of nimh (Reply to this) |
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on Sep 26 2008 07:43 AM what about secret of nimh (Reply to this) |
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on Sep 26 2008 07:45 AM what about secret of nimh (Reply to this) |
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on Sep 26 2008 07:52 AM What an awful list! Have the people who voted on this ever even SEEN any of the films in it? Wheres Madagascar? Why is Toy Story 2 higher than Toy Story 1?! Jungle book down in the 30's?! Let someone who actually knows something about animated film redo this list PLEASE! (Reply to this) |
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on Sep 26 2008 08:07 AM to me jungle book was the pioneer for pixar not for the animation but for finding great story lines (Reply to this) |
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on Sep 26 2008 09:02 AM how is shrek 2 and shrek in the 30's...they should be #1 and #2, and where the hell is shrek 3?!! and lion king should be higher up amongst many others (Reply to this) |
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on Sep 26 2008 10:04 AM Kung Fu Panda at 31? Are you kidding me? I saw at least 10 movies in the previous 19 that I would have ranked ahead of Kung Fu Panda... And Chicken Run at 8????? What the heck are you guys smoking at RT? Or maybe I should ask what the critics were smoking. That movie almost joined the ranks of Bolero as the only movies I have ever walked out on. Never, in my wildest dreams, when I started reading this list would I have thought it would make the list, let alone the top 10. That is just pathetic. Toy Story 2 might not have been my #1 (as I thought the original was much better), but for the most part I can't complain about the top 10 (with the exception of Chicken Run). Guess this list just illustrates how different critics view movies than the general movie going public. I've gone to movies highly acclaimed by critics and been severly disappointed... and I've gone to movies the critics hated and loved them. (Reply to this) |
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on Sep 26 2008 10:37 AM hey rottentomatoes, no one wants to click through 50 damn spots to read your lists, list them out and make them clickable to read on your elaboration, otherwise no one cares. cmon... (Reply to this) |
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on Sep 26 2008 10:42 AM In reply to this comment (#2046895) Ummm yeah...Ever heard of a guy named Don Bluth? Did you decide he wasn't important enough. And if it is a Tomatometer thing, then dammit critics...step it up!!! Top Five Best Bluth Films: 1. "The Secret of NIHM" 2. "The Land Before Time" 3. "Titan AE" 4. "An American Tail" 5. "All Dogs Go to Heaven" ("Rock-a-Doodle" too...a personal fav) Bluth is an understated genius. Leaving him off this list is a tragedy. (Reply to this) |
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on Sep 26 2008 02:12 PM Sure, snow white and pinocchio deserve credit for what they helped start but the best "animated" films they are not... Far from it... The omission of Spirited Away from the top 10 proves you don't understand the variety of elements that make an animated film "great." Considering that I am an animator, I am more than confident in claiming that you have no clue what you are talking about. Ridiculous... Just ridiculous... (Reply to this) |
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on Sep 26 2008 03:18 PM I had The Lion King picked in the top three. Please don't tell me a stupid anime film is going to be up there! (Reply to this) |
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on Sep 26 2008 04:36 PM I agree with the others that this is really a very poor list. Where are all the animated drama and Sci-fi? Should just put this as a disney/pixer/Dreamworks list.... (Reply to this) |
on Sep 26 2008 04:59 PM This list makes me cry. (Reply to this) |
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on Sep 26 2008 05:26 PM Spirited away isn't in the top 10? /cry (Reply to this) |
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on Sep 26 2008 08:20 PM I may not agree 100% with this list, but I know how you decided to grade each movie. I'm sorry you have to deal with all the people who take this list too seriously. (Reply to this) |
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on Sep 26 2008 10:14 PM yeah.... RT..... this list was awesome. just keep in mind that the average person on here is probably in highschool still..... how else would they have the time or nothing better to do? you guys did great (Reply to this) |
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on Sep 26 2008 10:20 PM In reply to this comment (#2046554) "Would you rather RT didn't look at what critics said, but rather use their own opinions to make a list?" I'd rather have RT ask the USERS for their opinions. That way, we can't complain if we don't like the list, because WE made it. (Reply to this) |
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on Sep 26 2008 10:57 PM I find it interesting that Ice age's Scrat is used for the logo, yet the film does not make the list, (Reply to this) |
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on Sep 27 2008 12:44 AM I think that this is list is flawed, well not that any list is PERFECT but I mean, Chicken run is higher than spirited away?? AND KUNG FU PANDA HIGHER than Disney's Classics like Little Mermaid?? I don't think that's right. I agree with the others that this list lacks Miyazaki's great films but... it did receive little coverage in America right? Sighs.. but still, I'm sticking to the fact that Disney's classics must be higher than these. (Reply to this) |
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on Sep 27 2008 01:34 AM I still don't understand how Peter Pan can't be on the list? I mean it's got freaking TINKERBELL! THE FREAKING MASCOT OF DISNEY, meh. (Reply to this) |
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on Sep 27 2008 07:32 AM I had joined this group so I could comment of the Shakespeare list which I thought, all told, was pretty ggod. I am less substantially less impressed with this ranking. First, all time classics such as Sleeping Beauty and Bambi only 45 and 33 respectively? No Way! Worst still, how did Anzt at 21, come in hirher ranked than Beauty and the Beast which was nominated for the best film Oscar. B&B should have been in the top five, not behind the okay Antz. (Reply to this) |
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on Sep 27 2008 09:06 AM not o good list RT.....and with all the biger and smaller mistakes, one stands out....where the f*** is "Ghost in the Shell" ?????????? (Reply to this) |
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on Sep 27 2008 09:33 AM Hmm... I thought it was quite a poor list, too many recent Disney films beating old time classics, the Nick Park stop motion films were way too low and as for anime I think there is a little film called Ghost In The Shell that was not mentioned... (Reply to this) |
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on Sep 27 2008 11:13 AM Oppressive, LukDos, we've covered this. The list is immortally jacked. Just be glad 'Ghost in the Shell' is not insulted by being on it at all. (Reply to this) |
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on Sep 27 2008 11:22 AM ya, their basing this on critics views and the tomater thing, not actually how good the films are. of course some are going to be on there and some are not. (Reply to this) |
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on Sep 27 2008 11:35 AM This list just reminds me how sad it is that Makoto Shinkai`s 5 cm per second has just two reviews on here and hasnt been mentioned anywhere in the comments so far, as it definetly deserves a place way up on that list in my opinion. (Reply to this) |
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on Sep 27 2008 11:35 AM This list just reminds me how sad it is that Makoto Shinkai`s 5 cm per second has just two reviews on here and hasnt been mentioned anywhere in the comments so far, as it definetly deserves a place way up on that list in my opinion. (Reply to this) |
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on Sep 27 2008 11:42 AM Poor list. Some of the mis-ranked names are obvious, others up for debate but for half of these movies to be on this list while masterpiece works like Don Bluth's The Secret of Nimh are not even included is just weird. And why the infatuation with the Disney factory? Some of those are just plain crappy. (Reply to this) |
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on Sep 27 2008 11:42 AM Poor list. Some of the mis-ranked names are obvious, others up for debate but for half of these movies to be on this list while masterpiece works like Don Bluth's The Secret of Nimh are not even included is just weird. And why the infatuation with the Disney factory? Some of those are just plain crappy. (Reply to this) |
on Sep 27 2008 01:30 PM I think that instead of going by the tomatometer CRITICS, they should have gone by the community averages. That would have set things straight, and, if someone disagreed with the list, they's only have the community to blame. (Reply to this) |
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on Sep 27 2008 05:13 PM A list of the Top 50 animated movies that doesn't include "Heavy Metal"?? Now that's just plain crazy.... (Reply to this) |
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on Sep 27 2008 08:09 PM Oh my lordy, this has to be the worst list I have ever seen. There's no way in hell that Toy Story 2 is the best ever, and South Park shouldn't even be ON that list! I'm not usually like this, but this list is pathetic. (Reply to this) |
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on Sep 27 2008 08:53 PM I'm shocked at the stupidity of people who don't realize the list is ranked by tomato meter. Nice List, I'll have to look into some of those movies. (Reply to this) |
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on Sep 27 2008 08:56 PM In reply to this comment (#2044790) "AL_X, the problem is that there simply aren't enough reviews for things like Porco Rosso and Grave of the Fireflies to be included on the list." Eh? RT's entry on Grave of the Fireflies lists 21 reviews with a consensus of 90%... (Reply to this) |
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on Sep 27 2008 09:18 PM if ur so smart, why don't u build ur own website? (Reply to this) |
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on Sep 28 2008 12:04 AM Wow, this list really sucks. Akira (one of the most CRITICALLY ACCLAIMED animated films of all time) should have been in the top ten, or at least ahead of crap like The Simpsons Movie or Kung Fu Panda. For shame, Rotten Tomatoes. (Reply to this) |
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on Sep 28 2008 12:14 AM And leaving out Ghost In The Shell is just plain blasphemy :( (Reply to this) |
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on Sep 28 2008 05:44 AM In reply to this comment (#2050537) Well. ..I can't decide what's more ill advised: this list, or this curious needs some folks have to bash others on here while conveniently ignoring the very obvious fact that everyone is fully aware that the list is based on the tomatometer. (Reply to this) |
on Sep 28 2008 06:26 AM In reply to this comment (#2044790) This has nothing to do with personal taste, RT-Matchity. RT-critics are still ignoring most animated movies... especially those which are not targeted at younger audiences, which is a shame, really. Grave of the Fireflies is one of the greatest achievements in animation, that is a matter of fact, not a question of personal taste. (Reply to this) |
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on Sep 28 2008 06:48 AM and this lis really is a bad joke! Call this "most popular animated films" and it would be fine... but it has nothing to do with "best animated films" what so ever. (Reply to this) |
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on Sep 28 2008 07:09 AM In reply to this comment (#2051166) Agreed. What's unsettling is that these are skilled writers, proven. Thus, they should know better than to title the list "Best Animated Films". At the end of the day, there really is no excuse for the error. (Reply to this) |
on Sep 28 2008 08:06 AM I've been browsing Rotten Tomatoes for years but never registered; but just had to so I could comment on this article. My list would be different, but I understand how RT came up with the rankings - that said, I couldn't avoid a yelp of dismay at a methodology that puts "Watership Down" and "Sleeping Beauty" below "Kung-Fu Panda" and "A Bug's Life". (I'm over it.) First cent of two - I agree with the poster in the middle who grumped about "Snow White". Objectively, I'll grit my teeth and say it deserves its place at #2. It was a landmark film; still stands head and shoulders as far as animation work....but personally, it doesn't work for me any more either. Every time she opens her mouth and that ultra high 1920s-style soprano whistles out, I cringe. I'd rather watch "Heigh Ho" on my kids old Sing Along with Disney tapes and skip the rest. Second cent: while I love animated films, I'm not an anime fan, but my teenager wrestled me down and made me watch "Howl's Moving Castle". I've seen "Spirited Away" and "Princess Mononoke" since, and have two more on order (this is a small town with limited video choices). For those who commented, in a variety of words, about fans' defense of obscure Japanese movies no one's ever heard of, I urge you to try Miyazaki's films. These are astonishing movies. Surreal, dreamlike, almost disjointed, but gorgeous. ("Howl" is the most accessible if you're not used to the storytelling style). I'm happily anticipating "Porco Rosso". (Reply to this) |
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on Sep 28 2008 08:14 AM This list made me laugh. Toy Story 2 ahead of Toy Story 1. What a dumb, stupid list. Cool that it has Persepolis, Spirited Away, and The Triplets of Belleville; nonetheless. (Reply to this) |
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on Sep 28 2008 10:01 AM OMG i cant believe im reading your guys comments! guys this list is critics consensus like this site! if u come here to see the list u know this! and i knew since i saw the beginning of the list that "toy story 2" would be on 1st! and for my taste its one of the greatest animations ive ever seen! (Reply to this) |
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on Sep 28 2008 10:04 AM i read u guys talking about titan a.e. and surf's up? are u kidding me? that movies are a joke! flushed away was a good movie and isnt on the list either:| (Reply to this) |
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on Sep 28 2008 10:21 AM Although I use RT extensively, using the RT rating to justify the merit and ranking of a HUGE category called 'animation' is a flawed use at best. When I saw the South Park movie at number 50 and then Watership Down at 49 I was mortified! RT is way too US market centric, there's plenty of great movie animation that is missing from RT. And occasionally there's group think on a particular movie that when you look back a year or more later you ask yourself 'It rated what??!!" As a historical ranking, this list is heavily flawed. :/ (Reply to this) |
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on Sep 28 2008 12:18 PM This is an a list generated by people who know nothing about animation. NOTHING. It is completely laughable and amateur in its scope with mostly an American viewpoint. Most of Miyazaki's films would have been in the top 10. Hint to editors: Go watch Miyazaki's films and you will see depth, character development that rivals some oscar winning films like "No Country for Old Men", etc.... Both Castle in the Sky and Nausicaa are better than anything produced by Disney or Pixar in terms of pure animation and character development. Takahata's Grave of the Fireflies will make you cry like the "Titanic". Note to Editors: Issue an apology and go watch some more movies before writing something entitled "Best Animated Films". Silly, Rediculous, Amateur in scope and over your head. You would have received an "F" grade if this was a class at USC film school. (Reply to this) |
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on Sep 28 2008 02:00 PM I think all this anime and manga bull**** should be taken off the list. It is horribly cheap animation and shouldn't even be considered for this list. Horrible list. (Reply to this) |
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on Sep 28 2008 02:03 PM Spirited Away... 97%. Dear lord. What a horrible movie. Anything anime or manga for that matter. Why do movie critics tend to love that crap? (Reply to this) |
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on Sep 28 2008 02:09 PM Miyazaki's movies rival films like "No Country for Old Men"? Haha, you've got to be kidding me. No Japanime, or any type of anime movie will ever compare. Do you have your head screwed on right? You might want to check that... (Reply to this) |
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on Sep 28 2008 02:15 PM In reply to this comment (#2051653) Jesus! Anything anime or mango is horrible?... Ugh! The fu.cking sky is falling, I swear. I'm lucky to ever travel outside of America and not be beaten to death by a band of intelligent people as an example of why they so legitimately hate us! (Reply to this) |
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on Sep 28 2008 02:59 PM In reply to this comment (#2051549) Of course, you're right. The hopelessly vacuous responses to your comment notwithstanding. This is the negative result of Disney escapist fare; it breeds stupid. (Reply to this) |
on Sep 28 2008 04:10 PM I think that probably most of these belong in the Top 50, but going by their Tomatoemeter alone doesn't accurately order this films properly in many cases. Shrek 2 is not above Shrek? C'mon now. The Incredibles and The Simpsons are WAAAAAYY too high in this list. And then we have South Park barely cracking the list at 50... unbelievable. Beavis and Butthead not even making the list seems like highway robbery. (Reply to this) |
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on Sep 28 2008 04:17 PM I don't think this would be the list of most critics. A lot of Miyzaki's movies presumably don't have enough reviews to be on this list. This is probably a reflection more on the exposure they receive in western society than on the critical opinion of them. (Reply to this) |
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on Sep 28 2008 05:25 PM Overall, the list was decent. Just a short list of flaws -toy story 2 should not be #1 -no ice age?!?! -no prince of egypt?!?! -no fox and the hound?!?! -south park movie should be higher -antz should not be higher than a bug's life (Reply to this) |
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on Sep 28 2008 05:43 PM Just the fact that Ghost in the Shell and Grave of the Fireflies are missing makes this list awful. Then add in the fact that Spirited Away and Persepolis are out of the top 10 and you have one of the worst lists RT has put out. (Reply to this) |
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on Sep 28 2008 05:44 PM Just the fact that Ghost in the Shell and Grave of the Fireflies are missing makes this list awful. Then add in the fact that Spirited Away and Persepolis are out of the top 10 and you have one of the worst lists RT has put out. (Reply to this) |
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on Sep 28 2008 07:13 PM Any list without The Lion King, The Jungle Book, Beauty and the Beast in the top ten is null and void. Also, where is Fox and the Hound???? (Reply to this) |
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on Sep 28 2008 08:08 PM terrible list (someone was nuts when they did this list) Chicken Run in the TOP 10 !! Your really are nuts (Reply to this) |
on Sep 28 2008 09:09 PM Thia list was odd,, and i think itss probably based on the T-meter that each film has. The lists this site comes off with kinda sucks for the reason i was talking about above. When will this site make lists based on their opinions and not on how well it was received by critics. (Reply to this) |
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on Sep 28 2008 09:35 PM In reply to this comment (#2048224) Well isn't that what they did in a way? They judged by the tomato meter most likely. And by how much the movies have made, and the awards they've won, etc. (Just guessing, here) Honestly, stop being so damn serious. It's not like this an official list for the world of what movies are better then others. In the end, it's what you think that counts, right? So why are you making this list out to be life and death? (Reply to this) |
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on Sep 28 2008 10:44 PM I am surprised!!!!!! where is Madagascar and Ice Age? (Reply to this) |
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on Sep 28 2008 10:48 PM Wall E was brilliant work by Pixar but I will rate Ratatouille ahead of Wall E. (Reply to this) |
on Sep 29 2008 01:23 AM Lion King not top 10, let alone not number 1?! Blasphemy! (Reply to this) |
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on Sep 29 2008 03:23 AM i like most of these cartoons, and have wanted so see a handfull of others...but why, oh Lord why was chicken run in the top ten and toy story two number one....when the Lion King was only in the top 30!!! i dont agree with the order one bit.... (Reply to this) |
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on Sep 29 2008 03:24 AM In reply to this comment (#2044949) i agree....i looove an american tail! and what about The Land Before Time? one rediculously beautiful movie... (Reply to this) |
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on Sep 29 2008 05:19 AM My two cents... starting with complaints: 1. The Tomatometer should have only counted for part of the ranking. It really made for some serious missteps. There were some classics that clearly should have been higher up. Most of my complaints stem from this mistake. 2. Aladdin, the Lion King and Beauty and the Beast were all in the 20's on this list. Right ahead of Beauty and the Beast... the Triplets of Bellville! Are you kidding me? Even if you're not a fan of Disney in general, come on! These are three of Disney's best ever, from its second "golden age;" the one I grew up with. I mean, check out the Critics Consensus on Beauty and the Beast: One of the Disney classics, Beauty and the Beast is one of the finest animated films of all time. So how come it's ranked 24th? Oh, and The Little Mermaid even further down the list?! 3. A lot of newer animated films got on the list. It's like they forgot the older ones. Personally, I don't think newer ones that haven't proven any staying power should be ranked so high above certifiable classics. (Persepolis above Bambi? They can shove that ranking! How about Toy Story 2 above... everything else? WTF? More later...) 4. This is one where I gotta throw my #2 complaint out the window. Ratatouille, quite possibly my all time favorite, speaking from an adult perspective, and last year's best reviewed movie... ranked at 16, just behind racist-as-hell Dumbo? Non! Wall-E got a lot more love from this list than Ratatouille, but I would have switched their rankings... and I loved Wall-E. 5. Honestly, I think I would have put Fantasia at #1 or #2, not #7, after Finding Nemo, which frankly did not dazzle me. 6. Toy Story 2 at number 1. A sequel. A relatively recent sequel. A very good recent sequel, I shall grant you, but ohmygawd none the less. That spot was for Snow White or Fantasia. Nothing else is acceptable to me. 7. Where on Earth was Tron? Excuse me?! It was the movie that put computer animation on the map. Its the movie that made CG viable. I'll grant you the characters were not animated, with only one exception to the best of my memory, but it was a damn good movie and there are others on this list that feature a blend of live action and animation. It belonged on this list. 8. Peter. Freaking. Pan. PETER. FREAKING. PAN. Featuring Disney's favorite daughter, Tinkerbell. Who screwed their head on backwards before they made this --- Wh 1. Nightmare Before Christmas in the top 10. When I saw it as a kid, I thought it was more for adults. When I saw it as an adult, I thought it was more for kids. Now... I feel it in a way I never did before. Through the eyes of both. It's like needing both eyes to have depth perception. I had to see it from both sides to see the full picture. It's not perfect. But it is unique. 2. Chicken Run at #8. I can tell a lot of people had a problem with this ranking. It makes me wonder how many actually saw it. It would have been so easy to overlook, but they didn't. It looks like its for kids, but like many of the very best, it is not. It takes you by the empathy and rips your heart out before repairing the damage. 3. Toy Story at #4. Its sequel at #1 ticks me off, but Toy Story belongs in the top 5. Not only was it an excellent movie, it was the first computer animated one, and that alone makes it stand out from the crowd. 4. Pinocchio at #3. I might have switched Toy Story (#4) and Pinocchio, but still, it belonged near the ---- Her 10. Wall-E. 9. Spirited Away. 8. Chicken Run. (Yes, I'm dead serious. Don't crab unless you've seen the thing.) 7. The Nightmare Before Christmas. 6. Ratatouille. 5. The Lion King. 4. Pinocchio. 3. Toy Story. 2. Snow White and the Seven Dwarfs. 1. Fantasia. Okay, I admit to a lot of Disney mongering and not following my own rule about too many recent movies, but this is my personal top ten, based as much on "classic" status as on my own personal --- An (Reply to this) |
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on Sep 29 2008 05:33 AM Oh, and I thought of one last complaint. A bit misleading to use Ice Age in the graphic to advertise the list... and not have it in the list. I wouldn't have personally put it there, but still! melissa*: I agree with An American Tail and The Land Before Time being left out. I loved them both as kids. I still have my Fievel doll. I have seen both as an adult. An American Tail was, frankly, a little strange. And Land Before Time was... just appalling from my perspective as an adult. Really, unwatchable. I don't know how my parents put up with it. WOO! The products of lack of sleep. I always end up getting waaay too wrapped up in stupid, pointless stuff online when I can't sleep... Case in point. *removes self from computer* (Reply to this) |
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on Sep 29 2008 08:28 AM It's a ****ty list undoubtedly, because if you're going to rely on the tomato meter for ranking animation, there's going to be a number of problems: Firstly, almost all MAINSTREAM American animation is aimed to be mass market crowd pleasers, for mostly kids with something for adults as well. In that light, critics usually lower their standards for animation and that's why few would give rotten ratings for them. Few American animated movies try to be avant-garde or complex, making them less contentious. Secondly, most critics are ignorant of foreign animation. If you've seen the stuff out there (like Japanese, Russian and European animation), you can never look at American animation in the same light. It's like trying to put your usual summer blockbuster movie in the same league of movies like Lost in Translation, etc. Though do keep in mind I'm not saying the American works are bad, and there are exceptions on both sides of the coin. As for those who believe foreign animation has no place in this list because it is "obscure", that is not at all the case (well, at least in the case of Japanese animation). (Reply to this) |
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on Sep 29 2008 08:48 AM I am normally fine with most of your lists.....but this is ridiculous. Miyazaki deserves more credit. and also, toy story 2 over toy story was a huge shocker. There are normally times where I disagree with lists but this is just horrible. and how is Who Framed Roger Rabbit an animated movie? It is a good movie but it is besides the last few minutes mostly non-animated. (Reply to this) |
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on Sep 29 2008 09:13 AM To begin, remove The Rescuers, Corpse Bride, The Emperor's New Grove, Lilo & Stitch, and Shrek 2. Maybe Fantasia 2000, too. Also, Roger Rabbit could arguably be removed for genre reasons. Now there should be room for My Neighbor Totoro (not to mention Kiki's Delivery Service and Whisper of the Heart)! Next, move the Nick Park movies to the back of the list, as neither Were-Rabbit nor Chicken Run are as good as his short films. Toy Story 2 should also move back. I disagree that it's a better film than Toy Story 1. Ratatouille and The Incredibles should move into the top ten. Glad to see Iron Giant high on the list. Akira is there, but where is Ghost in the Shell? PS: I agree with Blatman that The Road to El Dorado was underrated. :-) (Reply to this) |
on Sep 29 2008 10:12 AM Do you all actually understand how this list was compiled? You could never compile an fully agreeable "Top" list. It's based on the critic's reviews. What did you expect? Of course widely released newer films are all over the list, because they get the most reviews! Make your own list at home and show all of your friends so they can disagree with you. You can argue that your opinion is fact for all eternity if you want! Just stop posting mind-liquefying ignorance for the world to see, not care about, and forget instantly. (Reply to this) |
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on Sep 29 2008 10:29 AM In reply to this comment (#2053440) (Reply to this) |
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on Sep 29 2008 03:33 PM I agree with a lot of this list, however, I can't say Toy Story 2, of all animated films, is #1. I would have put Pinocchio and Snow White #'s 1 and 2 for sure. (Reply to this) |
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on Sep 29 2008 07:33 PM I'm not one to complain that stupid Shrek 2 is put above several Disney classics or that some of my old favourites are missing from the list, but it sort of irks me that Wall-E, almost inarguably Pixar's best film, which RT did have the sense to jack up above Finding Nemo regardless of the tomatometer status, is still below the relatively mediocre Toy Story and Toy Story 2. Granted, they are rather good movies, but we're seeing them through rose tinted glasses. (Reply to this) |
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on Sep 29 2008 08:11 PM I'm not one to complain that stupid Shrek 2 is put above several Disney classics or that some of my old favourites are missing from the list, but it sort of irks me that Wall-E, almost inarguably Pixar's best film, which RT did have the sense to jack up above Finding Nemo regardless of the tomatometer status, is still below the relatively mediocre Toy Story and Toy Story 2. Granted, they are rather good movies, but we're seeing them through rose tinted glasses. (Reply to this) |
on Sep 29 2008 09:21 PM Apparently the creators of this list never learned their "5 P's", Preparation Prevents Piss Poor Performance! Any list that has "A Nightmare Before Christmas" ahead of "The Lion King" is A JOKE!!! (Reply to this) |
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on Sep 30 2008 01:06 AM Smaft - You talkin' to me? You're one to talk... LMAO! (Reply to this) |
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on Sep 30 2008 06:59 AM In reply to this comment (#2044849) To Agniyo: "A scanner Darkly" is not even an animated movie!;) (Reply to this) |
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on Sep 30 2008 07:06 AM I think it's cool that you want to make a list like this and of course you can't satisfy eveyone. I do however see some huge misses and misplacings though. How is Antz over Kung Fu Panda??? Where's "Ice Age", "Horton", "Surf's Up", "rescuers downunder", "Madagascar" etc??? (Reply to this) |
on Sep 30 2008 09:57 AM It's based on reviews, people! Please read the intro for once! (Reply to this) |
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on Sep 30 2008 12:32 PM The problem with ranking according to tomatoe meter is over-all context. Maybe Toystory 2 was released at a time when we there were crappy films released, or all the critics thought it was barely passable and gave a barely fresh rating. So It's flawed, and overlooks genius. Why doesn't the editorial staff put together their own list? (Reply to this) |
on Sep 30 2008 07:10 PM No Titan AE? No Pink Floyd's The Wall? No Heavy Metal? Where are the adult animation films. A Scanner Darkly. A few Japanese Anime films and they were too low on the scale. Your Disney lovefest sickens me...My kids would love this list...me, not so much. I've said it before and I've said it again, these lists need to be only half based on your tomatometer and the other have with members voting, or don't our opinions matter? How do you find ratings for a movie released in 1939 (Snow White)? I'm surprised you didn't include Steamboat Willie. (Reply to this) |
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on Sep 30 2008 07:46 PM This list is for ****. It should not be based on Tomato readings. What a waste of time that was. (Reply to this) |
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on Sep 30 2008 09:30 PM Overall I think the list is very Solid, Its a good mashup of new films and Classics. To all the people complaining about Miyazaki Films. They Are decent, they are good movies, but the animation is grounded in realism and in that sense is not about the medium of Animation. Its about the Medium of Story Telling. A good animated movie doesn't need a great story, and a good movie doesn't need great animation. That is essentially what Anime is(bad animation, good story). Obviously there are bound to be points of contention in regards to the positioning of each item, but each movie in the list is justifiable to be in the top 50. Its too bad that the age of a film seems to make it better. Which is far from true, but we do have fond memories of the classics. But anyway, The Incredibles is definitely better than Toy Story 2. And is easily the BEST Pixar movie. (Reply to this) |
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on Sep 30 2008 09:36 PM No Ice Age? But the Guide Header has Scrat in it. FAIL! (Reply to this) |
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on Oct 01 2008 05:15 AM This is one of the most meaningless lists ever compiled. It's omissions are glaring. I thought I must have clicked past "Alice in Wonderland and "Wizards" somewhere because I can't imagine you would have left them out. (Reply to this) |
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on Oct 01 2008 08:51 AM Is there a way to see this list as a list. I'm curious to see what's on it, but not one per page. I'll be here all day. (Reply to this) |
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on Oct 01 2008 09:00 AM In reply to this comment (#2055596) SND_Crow writes: "A good animated movie doesn't need a great story, and a good movie doesn't need great animation. That is essentially what Anime is(bad animation, good story)." Anime is bad animation, good story? You've overgeneralized there. The genre is like any other animated genre. Some will have amazing animation some won't. Likewise with the story. Most of Miyazaki's work is excellent in both parts. (Reply to this) |
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on Oct 01 2008 10:31 AM Not a terrible list by any means. Those who argue for more Japanese or Chines anime films are coming from an artistic point of view but are missing the primary target for these films--kids. The biggest oversight is that Beauty and the Beast--the last animated film nominated for Best Picture and a huge worldwide hit--was not in the Top 20 and should have made the Top 5 for sure. No sequel should have been given the #1 slot. Wall-E (#5) will not come close in worldwide sales and long term popularity to Peter Pan, Lion King, Prince of Egypt, Little Mermaid all films left out of the Top 20! (Reply to this) |
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on Oct 01 2008 03:01 PM Chicken Run??? Blech! All the original Wallace and Gromits were better. (Reply to this) |
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on Oct 01 2008 04:37 PM While I didn't agree with most of the list, I did enjoy reading the rantings on these comments pages. It really is rather amusing how emotional some people get over animation. ((Of course, I wanted to have a rant too, but at this point it's rather redundant...)) ...and to SND_Crow: Why do you consider anime to have "bad animation"? Especially with movies such as Spirited Away and Howl's Moving Castle! ((Sure, some tv anime aren't the best drawn in the world, but neither are american tv cartoons.)) (Reply to this) |
on Oct 01 2008 07:25 PM In reply to this comment (#2044656) Uh, surf's up sucked. I really agree with this list except for one thing... where the f*** is the Secret of NIMH? Are we gonna just ignore Don Bluth now? So he leaves Disney and gets animation good again and doesn't get a single entry for this list? I also think that next to Jaws, even though it was a good movie Toy Story two is the most over-rated movie of all time. In my opinion the first was better, but, hey, that's my opinion. (Reply to this) |
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on Oct 01 2008 07:30 PM Shrek 2 and Kung Fu Panda don't even belong on the list! Even among just this year's animated movies, Terra blew away Kung Fu Panda. I guess there weren't enough reviews for Terra. Just like there weren't enough reviews for a half dozen other films that belong on this list: 5 Centimeters Per Second, The Place Promised in Our Early Days, Nausicaa of the Valley of the Wind, Laputa: Castle in the Sky, My Neighbor Totoro, and of course, The Secret of NIHM! Also, The Lion King deserves to be much higher on that list. It may have only gotten 92%, but it got 100% of "top critics", and is a far more significant film to the history of animation than most of what's listed above it! (Reply to this) |
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on Oct 01 2008 08:12 PM In reply to this comment (#2053440) I guess it proves that Tomato Meter scores are a horrible way to rank animated movies... 1. Any movie older than 10 years seems to have an overly low score compared to recent films. Perhaps critics have changed their view of animation over the years, but the age of the film definitely impacts the score. 2. Few European and Asian animated films have enough reviews to be counted. Perhaps this is a consequence of America's view that cartoons are for kids, or the fact the foreign films are usually relegated to repertory theaters, but a lot of very good movies don't reach the mainstream American audience. (Reply to this) |
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on Oct 02 2008 12:00 AM where is Alice in Wonderland? and Toy Story 2 is great but it's not #1. Wall-E is better than Toy Story 2 any day. Where is Alice in Wonderland? (Reply to this) |
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on Oct 02 2008 01:44 AM Toy Story 2 has always been my favourite ever! you guys rock! Great count down- but the simpsons movie needs to be higher! And Wall E needs to be lower, it good not denying that but not that good. And the lion KING should be number 2! Great job altogether! (Reply to this) |
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on Oct 02 2008 01:44 AM In reply to this comment (#2044712) Toy Story 2 has always been my favourite ever! you guys rock! Great count down- but the simpsons movie needs to be higher! And Wall E needs to be lower, it good not denying that but not that good. And the lion KING should be number 2! Great job altogether! (Reply to this) |
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on Oct 02 2008 04:23 AM It's very hard to appreciate this list without the inclusion of My Neighbor Totoro. I checked its Tomatometer and it only rated an 87. I think that points out more of the flaw of using the Tomatometer as a measuring device than the quality of that film. (Reply to this) |
on Oct 02 2008 04:45 PM I actually really liked Kung Fu Panda, it used a little bit of traditional 2D animation which is rarely seen now-a-days. I really liked the art for the movie as well. I'm happy to see a lot of Miyazaki's work on the list. Too bad the sexist Snow White is close to the top. Oh well, it did revolutionize the animation industry. (Reply to this) |
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on Oct 02 2008 05:30 PM How in the world did Beauty and the Beast not make the top ten? And Finding Nemo is in no way better than the Incredibles. I think Spirited Away deserved to be higher as well. And to top it all off, I don't even like Toy Story 2. I was happy to see that all of my favorite animated films are on this list (go Iron Giant!), but I can't say I was happy with the list overall. (Reply to this) |
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on Oct 02 2008 07:46 PM this list is frankly an insult to some amazing, stunning movies.films like Princess Mononoke and The Lion King were absolutely defaced when they were placed below the top twenty. Each of those films belongs in at least the top ten. I could go on for hours about things wrong w/this list. A few things, I agreed with. Most everything I though was totally bogus. And it makes even less sense when movies with, let's say, a 97% score, are placed behind movies with a 93% score. This list should have been made based on the average percents received, not the opinions of a bunch of people. Toy Story 2 is perhaps the farthest thing from the best animated movie ever. It was good, but not better than the original, and CERTAINLY not better than films like Aladdin of Beauty and the Beast. The top ten should be mostly Disney classics. Animated films are a big part of my past and my childhood, and this disgrace of a list was a low-blow to that. Re-do it (Reply to this) |
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on Oct 02 2008 08:05 PM What ever happened to "The Land Before Time," and "Secrets of Nymh" definitely deserved to be on the list. And movies like Kung Fu Panda and Emporer's New Groove may be good, but shouldn't be on the same list as films like Princess Mononoke and Lion King. (Reply to this) |
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on Oct 03 2008 12:15 AM This list just proves that Movie Critics are full of crap. (Reply to this) |
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on Oct 03 2008 05:03 AM This list is as ridiculous as it is a mistake. Not because its a nice summary of some great, some nice and some awful animations. But because the category 'Animation' as a 'genre' is a mistake. How can you compare a serious science fiction as ghost in the shell with a happy, bouncy, silly film like Madagascar? Because you can't... just because they're both animated, doesn't mean you can put them in the same category... No way you can compare a film like 'a scanner darkly' with bambi... this list is a joke and quite useless. nice to be reminded of some great films though. (Reply to this) |
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on Oct 03 2008 08:11 PM RT said "Before you start raising hackles ... allow us a second to explain our parameters. Each of the films presented here has at least 20 reviews in order to maintain a measure of critical weight" and then left out My Neighbor Totoro, with 23 reviews and a Tomatometer score of 87 and then left out Metropolis, with 55 reviews and a Tomatometer score of 91 Come on! (Reply to this) |
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on Oct 03 2008 11:28 PM "Spirited Away" should be number one. I suppose there are many films that should have been mentioned on the list, and quite a few that could easily be deleted.(Shrek 2,Chicken Run, Kung fu Panda)Movies like, "Fantastic Planet" and "Ghost in the Shell" were ground breaking, "Tuturo" and "Kiki's Delivery Service" were also beautiful and should have been placed insstead of the uneven, "Howle's Moving Castle". Surprised you used the critter, "Scrat" to head your title, and left off the movie he came from ("Ice Age"). "Over the Hedge" was hilarious and very well done, "Madagascar" was also very amusing. Don Bluth deserved some mention, his "American Tale" was like a Broadway show, animated. Good to see Yellow Submarine, Watership Down, Northpark and The Triplets of Bellville on the list. Good not to see the dud, Heavy Metal. (Reply to this) |
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on Oct 03 2008 11:29 PM "Spirited Away" should be number one. I suppose there are many films that should have been mentioned on the list, and quite a few that could easily be deleted.(Shrek 2,Chicken Run, Kung fu Panda)Movies like, "Fantastic Planet" and "Ghost in the Shell" were ground breaking, "Tuturo" and "Kiki's Delivery Service" were also beautiful and should have been placed insstead of the uneven, "Howle's Moving Castle". Surprised you used the critter, "Scrat" to head your title, and left off the movie he came from ("Ice Age"). "Over the Hedge" was hilarious and very well done, "Madagascar" was also very amusing. Don Bluth deserved some mention, his "American Tale" was like a Broadway show, animated. Good to see Yellow Submarine, Watership Down, Northpark and The Triplets of Bellville on the list. Good not to see the dud, Heavy Metal. (Reply to this) |
on Oct 04 2008 09:44 AM Surfs Up is the, if not only, real good animeted movie ive seen in a while. (Reply to this) |
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on Oct 04 2008 01:39 PM I agreed with most of the movies that were on the list - just not the order they were in. Toy Story 2 definitely doesn't deserve the top honor. I haven't watched a lot of foreign animated films, so I can't attest to Akira or Spirited Away. But all-time classics like "Snow White", "Cinderella", "The Lion King", and "Toy Story" should all be in top 10! (Reply to this) |
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on Oct 04 2008 01:40 PM I agreed with most of the movies that were on the list - just not the order they were in. Toy Story 2 definitely doesn't deserve the top honor. I haven't watched a lot of foreign animated films, so I can't attest to Akira or Spirited Away. But all-time classics like "Snow White", "Cinderella", "The Lion King", and "Toy Story" should all be in top 10! (Reply to this) |
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on Oct 04 2008 01:41 PM In reply to this comment (#2044712) Definitely gotta agree with you about Toy Story2. Cars wasn't so bad. I haven't seen Walle, but I'm sure it was a really good movie. But I think the movie that deserves the number one slot should be a movie that has stood the test of time. (Reply to this) |
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on Oct 04 2008 07:10 PM Who made this list? Which middle school did they survey? Pinnochio is the best animated movie of all time. That's just common sense. (Reply to this) |
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on Oct 05 2008 03:46 PM Lady and the tramp and shrek.....numbers 1 and 2 (Reply to this) |
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on Oct 05 2008 11:55 PM It would have been more accurate in reverse order. (Reply to this) |
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on Oct 06 2008 03:56 AM If only more people had taken the time to review My Neighbour Totoro and Laputa Castle in the Sky. They should undoubtedly be on there. Beauty and the Beast, Aladdin and The Lion King should be higher. Good to see Finding Nemo and WALL-E high on the list. (Reply to this) |
on Oct 06 2008 10:55 AM toy story 2 #1??? dumbo should be higher but im glad to see pinocchio and snow white high (Reply to this) |
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on Oct 06 2008 10:56 AM toy story 2 #1??? dumbo should be higher but im glad to see pinocchio and snow white high (Reply to this) |
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on Oct 07 2008 07:40 AM ok no All Dogs go to Heaven, The Land Before Time, Lion King, Fern Gully, Anastasia, come on......these are mandatory.... (Reply to this) |
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on Oct 07 2008 08:39 AM A lot of questionable movies and Madagascar and Ice Age didn't make it. (Reply to this) |
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on Oct 07 2008 08:59 AM Why wasn't this called 'The greatest animated film countdown (sponsored by Walt Disney)' ? It literally was a disney film list, Disney even distributes the ghibli animes so there only like 6 non disney film there. I knew the list was a waste of time when Kung-fu panda appeared in the list. Virtually every disney cartoon was there yet only 3 Miyazaki films were there, which is an utter disgrace. If you're going to make a greatest ever list, decide on quality, don't discount them just because they don't have enough reviews. One last thing, where the heck was grave of the fireflies? That film was more moving than any live action film I've seen, what a messed up list. (Reply to this) |
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on Oct 07 2008 09:00 AM Why wasn't this called 'The greatest animated film countdown (sponsored by Walt Disney)' ? It literally was a disney film list, Disney even distributes the ghibli animes so there only like 6 non disney films there. I knew the list was a waste of time when Kung-fu panda appeared. Virtually every disney cartoon was there yet only 3 Miyazaki films were there, which is an utter disgrace. If you're going to make a greatest ever list, decide on quality, don't discount them just because they don't have enough reviews. One last thing, where the heck was grave of the fireflies? That film was more moving than any live action film I've seen, what a messed up list. (Reply to this) |
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on Oct 07 2008 09:39 AM WOW, this list really stinks, just like the best science fiction movies list. Geez!! What they need here is a voting system instead. (Reply to this) |
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on Oct 07 2008 05:05 PM Upon only seeing the top ten animated films of all time, Im in agreement with everyone that this list was poorly put together. The major issue I have with the list is that Academy Award winning film, "The Lion King" is not included in the top ten. Films like "Wall-E," that managed to snab the 5 spot, and "The Incredibles," that just fell short of the top ten(11th), that were just recently released, in my opinion, don't compare to the animated films of my early childhood. Films like The Little Mermaid and Bambi were put behind of Kung Fu Panda, a mediocre animated film released by Dreamworks that has only had success with Shrek franchise. This list just baffles me altogether. (Reply to this) |
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on Oct 07 2008 05:57 PM Lion King, Wall-E, Kung Fu Panda, Spirited Away, Akira and Aladdin are a lot of better than Toy Story 2 (Reply to this) |
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on Oct 07 2008 05:57 PM Lion King, Wall-E, Kung Fu Panda, Spirited Away, Akira and Aladdin are a lot of better than Toy Story 2 (Reply to this) |
on Oct 07 2008 11:25 PM Where's the Secret of Nim?????? (Reply to this) |
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on Oct 07 2008 11:39 PM I went from 1-18 and didn't see The Lion King or Ice Age. UNREAL! This list is messed-up. (Reply to this) |
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on Oct 08 2008 09:08 AM I am really surprised at the absence of Don Bluth films such as Land Before Time, American Tale, Secret of NIMH. All these movies were classic, its a shame they didn't make the list. (Reply to this) |
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on Oct 08 2008 10:52 AM We have to keep in mind her, that the movies we have seen at 8 or 12 will seems infinitely better than the movie we've seen at 20 (or even older). It's easy: the younger you are, the less criticizism you make. I remember when Aladdin was, to me, a long, epic story with a "Dark", heavy moment in the middle (When Jafar take over the Genie). Today, it seems a short movie (it's not even 90 minutes I think) and still excellent and awesome, but not as dark as I once tought. Everything depend on perception. But yes, the list is weird. I think I should make my own one now. (Reply to this) |
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on Oct 08 2008 04:22 PM How the hell is Toy Story 2 in front of half those films? Spirited Away, Watership Down, Persepolis, hell two dozen films on that list are better than Toy Story 2. (Reply to this) |
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on Oct 09 2008 07:35 AM No Nausica, or Heavy Metal, Scanner Darkly, Land Before Time, Secret of Nimh, or even ****ing GHOST IN THE SHELL... man that should have been top 5 not ignored completely. (Reply to this) |
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on Oct 09 2008 07:49 AM Even Metropolis (2001) (Reply to this) |
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on Oct 09 2008 06:40 PM Where is Alice In Wonderland? This list is missing many great animated films. The order is a cluster****. (Reply to this) |
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on Oct 09 2008 09:20 PM Beautiful animation in "Spirit, Stallion of the Cimarron" and the original "Animal Farm". The Fleisher studios should get some credit for "Gullivers Travels". "Treasure Planet" also by Disney should have a place on the list. (Reply to this) |
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on Oct 10 2008 12:33 PM Where should one start disagreeing with this list, well, too many recent films a fault of all poor lists. Too many Hollywood films, ditto. Too many popular films, ditto again. (Reply to this) |
on Oct 11 2008 01:58 AM Wow. I agree with most everyone else. Looks like Disney stuffed the ballot box here. Even I noticed a distinct lack of HEAVY METAL and Ghost in The Shell, and Don Bluth everything (Titan AE and The Secret of NIMH specifically). Hey guys, Toy Story 2 at #1 should be your first clue that someone's been screwing with the system. (Reply to this) |
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on Oct 11 2008 01:58 AM Wow. I agree with most everyone else. Looks like Disney stuffed the ballot box here. Even I noticed a distinct lack of HEAVY METAL and Ghost in The Shell, and Don Bluth everything (Titan AE and The Secret of NIMH specifically). Hey guys, Toy Story 2 at #1 should be your first clue that someone's been screwing with the system. (Reply to this) |
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on Oct 11 2008 02:00 AM Hi there, moderators. Please kill my clone. Thanks! (Reply to this) |
on Oct 12 2008 07:22 PM This was a good list until I noticed 'The Lion King' was not at the #1 position. Usually I can respect lists like these, but I have absolutely zero respect for anyone who can feel so indifferent towards the greatest animated film of all time. (Reply to this) |
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on Oct 13 2008 02:41 PM Terrible list. How can Chicken Run be ahead of The Lion King, Spirited Away and other more deserving movies? And Monster Inc was a much better Pixar movie than The Incredibles. (Reply to this) |
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on Oct 13 2008 11:36 PM Exactly almost everyone in the forum,I'm not even gonna mention the fact that some of the movies don't belong on the list AT ALL, (South', Simpsons) or the fact that when you compare the true agonizing difficulty of making cg movies with the; devastating torment that went into making movies like THE SECRET OF NIMH, it may be better to separate the lists. Seriously; 49 Watership Down? AKIRA not in top 20? some of the works that built the animation industry not even in the top 10? Lets not be silly here perhaps there is a generation gap (logic years)in the hosts of the post or maybe they are ignorant to the true relevance of the mediums and the history in which they derived; but I'm sure anyone can see that half the rubbish in the top 20 doesn't belong there, or is in the wrong order. The more current cg movies look like some ten year old playing with their puppet action figures, very badly; and Toy Story 2 better than Toy Story? STINKING TIM BURTON??!!!KUNG FU PANDA!???!!!!Was this a list on animation quality, story, or just popularity based on what other guys said to us when we were growing up? Come one, watch 'em again! (Reply to this) |
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on Oct 14 2008 11:28 AM Toy Story 2 is the top Daze????? why don't Wall-E is the top Wall-E is the best animation or best movie for me and around of people in the world and more than Toy Story 2. (Thai %u0 (Reply to this) |
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on Oct 14 2008 11:28 AM Toy Story 2 is the top Daze????? why don't Wall-E is the top Wall-E is the best animation or best movie for me and around of people in the world and more than Toy Story 2. (Thai %u0 (Reply to this) |
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on Oct 14 2008 11:29 AM Toy Story 2 is the top Daze????? why don't Wall-E is the top Wall-E is the best animation or best movie for me and around of people in the world and more than Toy Story 2. (Thai %u0 (Reply to this) |
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on Oct 14 2008 11:32 AM It not true Toy story 2 is the top . Wall-E must to Tops . (Reply to this) |
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on Oct 15 2008 03:36 PM Okay, yes, we understand this was a list constructed by critical consent. That doesn't mean critical consent was the best way to go about making a list of top animated movies. Sorry, RT, but as they say, "you're doing it wrong." Try again. (Reply to this) |
on Oct 15 2008 09:39 PM Not a bad list. I thought Snow White would be #1 just because of the time it came out in and what it meant for animation. If Show White had bombed would any of the other movies ever existed? (Reply to this) |
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on Oct 16 2008 08:51 PM Toy Story 2? C'mon. And Wall-E? Don't believe the hype about Wall-E. I don't know anyone who saw that movie that didn't either fall asleep or, at the very least nod off a few times. I gave up on the list about ten movies in and skipped to the top 10. Is Fritz the Cat listed? (Reply to this) |
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on Oct 18 2008 12:37 AM Where's the love for Don Bluth? I find it suprising that such an established director could be completely shut out. Such classics as American Tale, Secret of Nimh, and The Land Before Time couldn't push Tarzan off this list. The #1 movie on this list Toy Story 2??? Really? It was animated like a movie that was to go directly to DVD which I believe was the original plan for the film. I have trouble wrapping my head around the concept that throughout movie history the best animated movie is Toy Story 2. Finding Nemo would be my choice for #1. PLEASE OMIT: Tarzan, Yellow Submarine, Antz PLEASE ADD: The Secret of Nimh, The Hobbit (how the hell did they miss that one), Heavy Metal (Reply to this) |
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on Oct 19 2008 07:36 PM I will begin being obvious: my personal list is very different from this one. I love the Disney classics, most of Don Bluth work, and many Pixar movies (except for Toy Story 2, that is their weaker work. No wonder there is not a Toy Story 3!). So, my list talks about the person I am. This list talks about the average member of the RT. Democracy is an excelent system for political decisions. Movies preferences are another story. Just because most people that are member of RT prefer Toy Story 2 to, lets say, Snow White, it does not mean that TS2 is a better movie. At least no for me and let me say, my opinion is very important to myself J. So, this kind of list is a funny waste of time, but we always like to check out and see if the other people opinion matches or own. If not, we fell angry as something very important was stollen from us. So, moderators, you looked for this, do not feel bad if people are upset! (Reply to this) |
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on Oct 20 2008 08:08 AM Pixar's "Cars" and Dreamworks' "Ice Age" were both better than at least a dozen entries on this list. How did "The Simpsons Movie" make it on here? I love the show, but the movie really felt recycled and superfulous. (Reply to this) |
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on Oct 21 2008 01:10 PM Ok, I am late to the fray...but I did not see one comment on why Ralph Bakshi's film Wizards (or War Wizards) was left off. Also agree with the "Why'd you leave of Don Bluth's work" and Ice Age flicks and finally, thanks for the list of movies I'd like to see but didn't know existed...I know what I am doing this weekend. To all of you all who are pissed or otherwise feeling slighted somehow by this list....get over it...your an idiot to someone as well. (Reply to this) |
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on Oct 22 2008 10:56 PM Even though I understand the logic behind these lists, I do wonder if, over time, critics' yardsticks in general change. Toy Story 2 is fantastic - for its time. But with the benefit of hindsight, is it really as good as Pixar's later stuff? I'm not a ani-geek like some amazingly knowledgeable people here but I do think that the likes of Ratatouille and WALL-E are far superior than Toy Story 2. It's a shame cultural influence can't be factored in, then I am sure Kung Fu Panda would not be so high methinks. I know this is an extremely popular site but I think we should just take the list is the fun spirit that it's meant. I know it won't change my opinion on what I think is the best. (Reply to this) |
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on Oct 24 2008 02:11 AM this list didn't make sense to me. It seems things like pioneer value and purity of intent were grossly overlooked. about the only thing i agreed with was that Antz was ranked higher than Bug's Life. Classics like Cinderella and Little Mermaid and Jungle book have no business being out of the top 10 list. And to cap it all off, Toy story 2 gets the no. 1 spot? i mean i loved that cartoon but if you have to absolutely give the no. 1 spot to the newcomers than Finding Nemo would get my vote. Or Wall-E. (Reply to this) |
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on Oct 24 2008 01:12 PM this list is definitely made by self obsessed americans A list with top 10 western? sorry i dont buy it. It's either the guy who made the list is a kid who is brainwashed by disney or just too naive and didn't watch true good quality anime. what were you thinking when you even start making up this list? quality aspect? influence? cause definitely you need to broaden your variety other than disney and pixel films (Reply to this) |
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on Oct 25 2008 03:41 PM I hate to pile on here since Top## Lists inevitably result in gripes about the ordering, especially the Top 10. Overall you had a descent list although the order at the last had me laughing out loud. Toy Story 2 ahead of the original? Who are the nitwits on this committee?! And ranking Pixar's Incredibles #16, not even in the Top 10 blew me away! Too funny. (Reply to this) |
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on Oct 27 2008 09:45 AM Easily, beauty and the beast and lion king should definately be in the top 10! Come on...batb was nominated for a friggin oscar! So dumb...it's more of a collection of animated films. (Reply to this) |
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on Oct 27 2008 09:58 AM so where they just going by rating...puhhh-lease (Reply to this) |
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on Oct 27 2008 02:19 PM "Toy Story 2 was okay." - Demetri Martin (Reply to this) |
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on Oct 31 2008 01:11 PM Well, my only complaint is that toy story 2 should be number 4, and the original should be number 1. But oh well... (Reply to this) |
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on Oct 31 2008 01:11 PM Well, my only complaint is that toy story 2 should be number 4, and the original should be number 1. But oh well... (Reply to this) |
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on Nov 02 2008 09:44 AM OK guys and gals, I do understand movies like A Toy Story 1 and 2 are great movies and definitely belngon the list, and Fantasia (1940) is certainly one of the best Disney movies, but are you guys too damn young to remember Ralph Bakshi: "WIZARDS" (1977), "FRITZ THE CAT" (1972), "THE NINE LIVES OF FRITZ THE CAT" (1974)? Maybe you can remember "HEAVY METAL" (1981) or "AMERICAN POP" (1981)Both very good Bakshi films, but nowhere near his best works! Is that why you did not bother to see "Wizrds"? If you had seen it, it would be in the top 5, no if's and's or but's!{FOR THOSE OP YOU TOO YOUNG TO KNOWMUCH ABOUT RALPH BAKSHI BUT LOVE ANIMATION, go to http://www.ralphbakshi.com/ to find out more info as he is as important as Chuck Jones or Max Schneider in the annals of animation. I mean this list is a joke, right? Was it sponsored by Pixar? Some of these movies were actually good, but Best Of All Time? My god, anyone involved in this product should be fired. How old are you folks, 15? "The Simpson's Movie" (2007) was really good and I am very glad that at least you recognized that--but I guess "Aqua Teen Hunger Force Colon Movie For Theatres" (2007) is beyond most people's comprehension, so I understand its absence on "THE LIST"; however, make no mistake, the movie was great! It is at least in the top 50 (IMHO). "Famil Guy Presents Stewie Griffin: The Untold Story" (2005), not yet shown on TV, has the leanings of an instant classic. These all Kick *** better than 90% of the movies on the list. "Toy Story" and "Toy Story 2" were absolutely great movies and they belong in the top 25, but #4 and the coveted #1? Man oh man! And while "Snow White and the Seven Swarfs" would be in the general vicinity of the top Disney classics (probably), Pinocchio would not. What is your reasoning? I can tell you mine, can you tell me yours? Let's talk about Classic Disney movies for a moment. Three little words squared: "The Three Caballeros" (1944) and "Alice in Wonderland" (1951). You did get Fantasia (1940), but have you seen "Ichabod and Mr. Toad" (1949) I mean "Bedknobs and Broomsticks" (1971) should count, right? Just because it is not competely animated should not rule it out. Let me stray from Disney to Warner Brothers for just a moment so that no one forgets the best (IMHO) [**Note this is added for my own humility but don't mistake it for any misgivings I have about my judgement!] mixed animation/live action film of all time: "The Incredible MrLimpet" (1964), an absolutely wonderful creative film starring Don Knotts. Who can forget: "I wish, I wish I were a fish"? Nickelodeon's "The Spongebob Squarepants Movie" (2004), "Jimmy Neutron: Boy Genius" (2001) and yes, even the slighty above average "The Rugrats Movie" (1998) and the slightly better "Rugrats in Paris" (2000) are superior to many on the list. What about all the great Warner Brothers or Hanna Barbara stuff? I mean "1001 Rabbit Tails" (1981) was an instant classic(IMHO)! All of the Scooby-Doo movies fall shortof the Top 50, but come on, "A Man Called Flintstone" (1966) is top ten and "The Flinstones Meet Rockula and Frankenstone" (1979), a parody on the parody "Abbot and Costello meet Frankenstein (1941)" is definitely a top 50. Pixar, Pixar, Pixar. Don't get me wrong, it is not that they do not do great movies, but we are talking about the BEST OF ALL TIME here, right, not just the best computer created movies? I guess at least with "Snow White and the Seven Dwarfs", you had the rounded (what I like to call) 2 and 1/2 D animation (in between 2D and 3D with the rounded characters typical of Disney) type aspect to it, which is so characteristic of early Disney (and all of it done by hand.I mean no disrespect to Koreabut unlike todays partially computer made animation, it was not sent to Animation Korea to do the "'tweeners." They actually animated it all, frame by frame --at that time it was 24 frames per second [1440 per minute for those mathematically challenged, although today it is 30 fps or 1800 fpm]--all by hand! In all fairness I have not seen "Wall-E", "Persepolis", "The Iron Giant" and "James and the Giant Peach", so I will reserve my comments on those. I was glad to see "South Park: Bigger Longer Uncut" represented at #50, although "Beavis and Butthead Do America" was not. At least we know that strong language, violence and nudity do not rule out a movie (**Note that "Fritz the Cat" (1972) and "The 9 Lives of Fritz the Cat" (1974) were both RATED X at the time of their release, but today may not even be an R rated since the PG-13 rating came out. Well, I could go on and on, but I will rap it up here. REDO THE LIST AND WATCH SOME NON-DISNEY OLDER CARTOONS. THERE ARE SO MANY OF THEM BETTER THAN THE ONES YOU CHOSE! MobiusDick (Reply to this) |
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on Nov 02 2008 09:47 AM OK guys and gals, I do understand movies like A Toy Story 1 and 2 are great movies and definitely belong the list, and Fantasia (1940) is certainly one of the best Disney movies, but are you guys too damn young to remember Ralph Bakshi: "WIZARDS" (1977), "FRITZ THE CAT" (1972), "THE NINE LIVES OF FRITZ THE CAT" (1974)? Maybe you can remember "HEAVY METAL" (1981) or "AMERICAN POP" (1981)Both very good Bakshi films, but nowhere near his best works! Is that why you did not bother to see "Wizards"? If you had seen it, it would be in the top 5, no if's and's or but's!{FOR THOSE OP YOU TOO YOUNG TO KNOWMUCH ABOUT RALPH BAKSHI BUT LOVE ANIMATION, go to http://www.ralphbakshi.com/ to find out more info as he is as important as Chuck Jones or Max Schneider in the annals of animation. I mean this list is a joke, right? Was it sponsored by Pixar? Some of these movies were actually good, but Best Of All Time? My god, anyone involved in this product should be fired. How old are you folks, 15? "The Simpson's Movie" (2007) was really good and I am very glad that at least you recognized that--but I guess "Aqua Teen Hunger Force Colon Movie For Theatres" (2007) is beyond most people's comprehension, so I understand its absence on "THE LIST"; however, make no mistake, the movie was great! It is at least in the top 50 (IMHO). "Family Guy Presents Stewie Griffin: The Untold Story" (2005), not yet shown on TV, has the leanings of an instant classic. These all Kick *** better than 90% of the movies on the list. "Toy Story" and "Toy Story 2" were absolutely great movies and they belong in the top 25, but #4 and the coveted #1? Man oh man! And while "Snow White and the Seven Dwarfs" would be in the general vicinity of the top Disney classics (probably), Pinocchio would not. What is your reasoning? I can tell you mine, can you tell me yours? Let's talk about Classic Disney movies for a moment. Three little words squared: "The Three Caballeros" (1944) and "Alice in Wonderland" (1951). You did get Fantasia (1940), but have you seen "Ichabod and Mr. Toad" (1949) I mean "Bed-knobs and Broomsticks" (1971) should count, right? Just because it is not completely animated should not rule it out. Let me stray from Disney to Warner Brothers for just a moment so that no one forgets the best (IMHO) [**Note this is added for my own humility but don't mistake it for any misgivings I have about my judgement!] mixed animation/live action film of all time: "The Incredible Mr Limpet" (1964), an absolutely wonderful creative film starring Don Knots. Who can forget: "I wish, I wish I were a fish"? Nickelodeon's "The Spongebob Squarepants Movie" (2004), "Jimmy Neutron: Boy Genius" (2001) and yes, even the slightly above average "The Rugrats Movie" (1998) and the slightly better "Rugrats in Paris" (2000) are superior to many on the list. What about all the great Warner Brothers or Hanna Barbara stuff? I mean "1001 Rabbit Tails" (1981) was an instant classic(IMHO)! All of the Scooby-Doo movies fall short of the Top 50, but come on, "A Man Called Flintstone" (1966) is top ten and "The Flintstones Meet Rockula and Frankenstone" (1979), a parody on the parody "Abbot and Costello meet Frankenstein (1941)" is definitely a top 50. Pixar, Pixar, Pixar. Don't get me wrong, it is not that they do not do great movies, but we are talking about the BEST OF ALL TIME here, right, not just the best computer created movies? I guess at least with "Snow White and the Seven Dwarfs", you had the rounded (what I like to call) 2 and 1/2 D animation (in between 2D and 3D with the rounded characters typical of Disney) type aspect to it, which is so characteristic of early Disney (and all of it done by hand.I mean no disrespect to Korea But unlike today's partially computer made animation, it was not sent to Animation Korea to do the "'tweeners." They actually animated it all, frame by frame --at that time it was 24 frames per second [1440 per minute for those mathematically challenged, although today it is 30 fps or 1800 fpm]--all by hand! In all fairness I have not seen "Wall-E", "Persepolis", "The Iron Giant" and "James and the Giant Peach", so I will reserve my comments on those. I was glad to see "South Park: Bigger Longer Uncut" represented at #50, although "Beavis and Butthead Do America" was not. At least we know that strong language, violence and nudity do not rule out a movie (**Note that "Fritz the Cat" (1972) and "The 9 Lives of Fritz the Cat" (1974) were both RATED X at the time of their release, but today may not even be an R rated since the PG-13 rating came out. Well, I could go on and on, but I will rap it up here. REDO THE LIST AND WATCH SOME NON-DISNEY OLDER CARTOONS. THERE ARE SO MANY OF THEM BETTER THAN THE ONES YOU CHOSE! MobiusDick (Reply to this) |
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on Nov 02 2008 09:49 AM In reply to this comment (#2109424) Note this second posting was spell checked. Mobi (Reply to this) |
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on Nov 03 2008 02:53 AM D: Worst list ever! (Reply to this) |
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on Nov 03 2008 02:20 PM I cant see how, with 100% tomatorating, Kiki's Delivery Service was omitted from this list. That #1 movie is ridiculous, it should be either Pinocchio or Snow White, or Spirited Away. No Heavy Metal? Does Roger Rabbit even classify as an animated film? I dont think it would in the oscar race. It would be nice to see a Bakshi release on this list. (Reply to this) |
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on Nov 03 2008 02:20 PM I cant see how, with 100% tomatorating, Kiki's Delivery Service was omitted from this list. That #1 movie is ridiculous, it should be either Pinocchio or Snow White, or Spirited Away. No Heavy Metal? Does Roger Rabbit even classify as an animated film? I dont think it would in the oscar race. It would be nice to see a Bakshi release on this list. (Reply to this) |
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on Nov 03 2008 02:24 PM The Last Unicorn by Rankin/Bass is also very good. (Reply to this) |
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on Nov 03 2008 02:44 PM Where is the love for Ralph Bakshi? Lord of the Rings, American Pop, Fritz the Cat. C'mon you have to think at least one of those warrants a mention on the list. (Reply to this) |
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on Nov 03 2008 05:19 PM Antz above Beauty and the Beast? Really? Antz was boring! Beauty and the Beast is classic...and don't forget it is the only animated movie ever nominated for a best picture Oscar...doesn't that count for something?!? (Reply to this) |
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on Nov 03 2008 08:54 PM The Hobbit - Rankin Bass Secret of NIMH - Don Bluth Whisper of the Heart - Studio Ghibli When the Wind Blows - An early graphic novel adaptation. Not entirely certain who made this, but its a beautiful and touching film. All of these movies deserve some props here (Reply to this) |
on Nov 07 2008 07:16 AM Well this list was a bit of a waste of time eh? Basing the list solely on the tomatometer scores simply highlights the fact that most of the best animation is not screened in English speaking countries, therefore not being reviewed by the majority of American critics. I adore Pixar, and definitely deserve high ranking - but in turn Bird and Lasseter worship Miyazaki. He in turn was heavily inspired by Walt Disney (the man, not the empire). There is no doubt in my mind that as far as CG animation goes, the US has it sewn up, but when it comes to actually telling deep, meaningful stories with complex, multilayered themes in an animated form, the Japanese anime industry is years if not decades ahead. (Reply to this) |
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on Nov 08 2008 02:58 PM imo the list was ok but, southpark really?!! what about hercules? anastasia? land before time? i say these movies should have been somewhere in this list. (Reply to this) |
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on Nov 10 2008 11:05 PM what about little nemo in slumberland? and ditto on the spirited away vs. chicken run. that's bs (Reply to this) |
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on Nov 11 2008 11:11 PM Wall E does NOT deserve 5th place. I mean what the f***?! Both Toy stories came before it. Pathetic. Wall-E is too good for 1st place, if you ask me. (Reply to this) |
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on Nov 13 2008 12:02 PM Top 7 ALL disney...I guess i shouldn't have expected any better, but come on. Especially in this day and age where anime (especially studio ghibli) is much more well known, why are we still letting disney dominate animated movies??? (Reply to this) |
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on Nov 15 2008 07:49 PM Besides not agreeing to this list's order, let me just name a few that were forgotten: Ice Age!!!! - how is this not there?? Peter Pan Hercules Simba's Pride Prince Of Egypt How the Grinch Stole Christmas - I don't care it was made for TV, if it's good animation it should be in this list!! The Fox and the Hound Anastasia All Dogs Go To Heaven Fivel Secret of Nihm The Last Unicorn Oliver and Company Robin Hood The Aristocats Happy Feet - You would expect the last animated film to get an oscar to be in your list!! no further comments...your list is missing too much to be considered a serious list. K. (Reply to this) |
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on Nov 15 2008 07:49 PM Besides not agreeing to this list's order, let me just name a few that were forgotten: Ice Age!!!! - how is this not there?? Peter Pan Hercules Simba's Pride Prince Of Egypt How the Grinch Stole Christmas - I don't care it was made for TV, if it's good animation it should be in this list!! The Fox and the Hound Anastasia All Dogs Go To Heaven Fivel Secret of Nihm The Last Unicorn Oliver and Company Robin Hood The Aristocats Happy Feet - You would expect the last animated film to get an oscar to be in your list!! no further comments...your list is missing too much to be considered a serious list. K. (Reply to this) |
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on Nov 15 2008 10:16 PM What the hell is this? WALL-E is number five it deserves to be number one, Spirited Away is not in the top ten for god this is a Oscar winner and Akira is 35 and The Little Mermaid is 34???? (Reply to this) |
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on Nov 24 2008 02:46 PM Where on earth are Felidae and Secret of NIMH!? (Reply to this) |
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on Nov 26 2008 01:00 PM 35! for akira! OMG! atleast in top 10 it is amazing (Reply to this) |
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on Nov 26 2008 01:01 PM 35! for akira! OMG! atleast in top 10 it is amazing (Reply to this) |
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on Dec 23 2008 01:37 AM Yes you could say there are a few titles missing from the list (namely several Anime offerings) plus the order, particularly the Top 10, is controversial. However, the guys did the best they could based on the specified criteria. One movie which is missing as one of the best animated movies of recent times (note I said recent times), in my book, is "Spirit", which works wonderfully well despite the fact the main character does not speak! It also has one of the great movie soundtracks by Bryan Adams and Hans Zimmer. If your kids haven't seen this, particularly if you have young girls, do yourself a favour and check it out. (Reply to this) |
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on Dec 23 2008 01:41 AM In reply to this comment (#2117837) I totally agree - maybe the CG animated movies should have been omitted and the list was purely "hand-drawn" animation? (Reply to this) |
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on Feb 06 2009 07:15 AM Toy Story is waaayy better then the second and Wall E should be #1 (Reply to this) |
on Jun 11 2009 08:09 PM I just noticed, looking through reviews of other animated films, that some which meant the qualifications weren't included for some reason. At the time, Kirikou and the Sorceress, Ghost in the Shell, Metropolis, Grave of the Fireflies, Tokyo Godfathers, Hercules, My Neighbour Totoro, and Batman - Mask of the Phantasm had enough reviews to make it, and had higher percentages than some that were included, but for some reason were absent. If they were included, then, at the time, Lilo & Stitch, The Emperor's New Groove, Corpse Bride, Sleeping Beauty, Fantasia 2000, Paprika, The Rescuers, Watership Down, and South Park - Bigger, Stronger & Uncut would have not made it. Either way, I'm disappointed that at 80%, Waking Life, my favorite animated movie, just barely missed the cut, but since this is based off reviews and not opinions, I can live with it. (Reply to this) |
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on Jun 12 2009 10:49 AM Woops, I also forgot about Millenium Actress, which would have pushed out Howl's Moving Castle. (Reply to this) |
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on Jun 19 2009 11:59 AM Okay, so, after doing a lot of research and calculating the percentages of movies before September 15th, 2008 (there was one review entered in the website on that day which I ignored, because I thought they would have already worked on the list a previous day and just released it that day), I have found a more accurate list of the 50 most acclaimed animated films of all time. In order and including the year they are listed under, the percentagesat the time, number of reviews (positive - negative), and place on the list, they are: 1. Toy Story 2 (1999) (100%, 123-0) (1) 2. Toy Story (1995) (100%, 49-0) (4) 3. Snow White and the Seven Dwarfs (1937) (100%, 34-0) (2) 4. Pinocchio (1940) (100%, 30-0) (3) 5. Finding Nemo (2003) (98%, 186-3) (6) 6. Chicken Run (2000) (98%, 130-3) (8) 7. Who Framed Roger Rabbit? (1988) (98%, 42-1) (9) 8. Fantasia (1940) (98%, 39-1) (7) 9. The Incredibles (2004) (97%, 213-7) (11) 10. WALL-E (2008) (97%, 196-7) (5) 11. Spirited Away (2002) (97%, 146-4) (13) 12. The Iron Giant (1999) (97%, 107-3) (14) 13. The Nightmare Before Christmas (1993) (97%, 64-2) (10) 14. 101 Dalmations (1961) (97%, 36-1) (12) 15. Dumbo (1941) (97%, 28-1) (15) 16. Ratatouille (2007) (96%, 196-9) (16) 17. Persepolis (2007) (96%, 119-5) (17) 18. James and the Giant Peach (1996) (96%, 48-2) (19) 19. Kirikou and the Sorceress (1998) (96%, 23-1) (NEW) 20. Wallace & Gromit: The Curse of the Were-Rabbit (2005) (95%, 156-8) (18) 21. Monsters, Inc. (2001) (95%, 148-7) (20) 22. Antz (1998) (95%, 80-4) (21) 23. The Triplets of Belleville (2003) (94%, 122-8) (23) 24. Millenium Actress (2003) (94%, 44-3) (NEW) 25. Yellow Submarine (1968) (94%, 33-2) (22) 26. Ghost in the Shell (1995) (94%, 29-2) (NEW) 27. Beauty and the Beast (1991) (93%, 50-4) (24) 28. Princess Mononoke (1997) (92%, 71-6) (25) 29. The Lion King (1994) (92%, 56-5) (26) 30. A Bug%u2019s Life (1998) (91%, 69-7) (29) 31. Metropolis (2002) (91%, 50-5) (NEW) 32. Aladdin (1992) (91%, 43-4) (27) 33. The Simpsons Movie (2007) (90%, 166-19) (28) 34. Tokyo Godfathers (2004) (90%, 52-6) (NEW) 35. The Little Mermaid (1989) (90%, 43-5) (34) 36. Grave of the Fireflies (1988) (90%, 19-2) (NEW) 37. Shrek 2 (2004) (89%, 178-22) (32) 38. Shrek (2001) (89%, 149-18) (30) 39. Hercules (1997) (89%, 39-5) (NEW) 40. Bambi (1942) (89%, 32-4) (33) 41. Kung Fu Panda (2008) (88%, 131-18) (31) 42. Akira (1988) (88%, 29-4) (35) 43. The Jungle Book (1967) (88%, 22-3) (36) 44. Sleeping Beauty (1959) (88%, 22-3) (45) 45. Tarzan (1999) (87%, 83-12) (37) 46. Mulan (1998) (87%, 58-9) (39) 47. Lady and the Tramp (1955) (87%, 26-4) (38) 48. My Neighbor Totoro (1988) (87%, 20-3) (NEW) 49. Cinderella (1950) (87%, 20-3) (40) 50. Batman %u2013 Mask of the Phantasm (1993) (87%, 20-3) (NEW) The Jungle Book and Sleeping Beauty had the same percentages and number of reviews, but I listed The Jungle Book first because it was first on the list. The same with My Neighbour Totoro, Cinderella, and Batman - Mask of the Phantasm. For those, since all registered reviews for all three were before 09/15/08, and therefore the average ratings listed were accurate for the time, I listed them by average ratings. The ones that made RT's list but not mine are, in order of RT's list: Howl%u2019s Moving Castle (2005) (86%, 120-20) (41) Lilo & Stitch (2002) (85%, 118-21) (42) The Emperor%u2019s New Groove (2000) (85%, 102-18) (43) Tim Burton%u2019s Corpse Bride (2005) (84%, 148-29) (44) Fantasia 2000 (1999) (84%, 61-12) (46) Paprika (2007) (82%, 69-15) (47) The Rescuers (1977) (83%, 20-4) (48) Watership Down (1978) (85%, 23-4) (49) South Park: Bigger, Longer, & Uncut (1999) (80%, 73-18) (50) Interestingly, Sleeping Beauty, which was ranked at 45, didn't fall off. RT listed its percentage at 85% for the guide. However, based off my calculations, it had 88% (and I checked and checked and checked again). I'm guessing that a critic reviewed it again after the guide was released, thereby cancelling the old review, or a critic who reviewed Sleeping Beauty at the time is no longer a listed critic on RT. Either way, it has 88%. (Reply to this) |
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on Jul 22 2009 02:18 PM In reply to this comment (#2044878) Picking their own might have been better. (Reply to this) |
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on Jul 22 2009 02:18 PM In reply to this comment (#2044878) Picking their own might have been better. (Reply to this) |
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on Oct 16 2009 01:28 AM In reply to this comment (#2044712) How is Toy Story 2 pixars worst movie its way better than walle. Cars is pixars worst movie. (Reply to this) |
on Nov 04 2009 08:46 PM persopolis needs to be right behind wall e which should have been first. everyone loves toy story 2 just like everyone loves carmen elektra. (Reply to this) |
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on Nov 04 2009 08:48 PM could be that the list is for kids in which case i feel dumb (Reply to this) |
on Nov 25 2009 01:56 PM This list illustrates how stupid the RT rating system is. The merely average Chicken Run and Toy Story 2 are in the 98% and higher range? Meanwhile there are absolute classics that aren't even ranked. Don't bother with these embarrassing lists anymore - the RT rating formula sucks as bad as the IMDB one! (Reply to this) |
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on Nov 25 2009 02:32 PM In reply to this comment (#2565244) agreed. (Reply to this) |
on Jan 02 2010 07:01 AM one word perfect list (Reply to this) |
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