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Sundance News: "Chicago 10" Disappoints; Dakota Fanning's "Hounddog" Violating Child Pornography Laws? "Crazy Love" Causes Bidding War
by Senh Duong | January 21, 2007
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Since the Sundance Film Festival started two days ago, three films have already drawn extra media attention. "Chicago 10," Brett Morgen's highly anticipated follow-up to "The Kid Stays in the Picture," disappointed critics; "Hounddog," starring Dakota Fanning, might face a child pornography violation; and "Crazy Love," with its wild and disturbing love story, generated a bidding war between indie distributors. What will the rest of the week bring? Back to Article
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Ashron
Ashron writes:
on Jan 22 2007 07:33 PM

Okay, I'm guessing you're Catholic. I have no problem with that, I know a bunch of Catholics (including my stepmother) and most of them are nice, caring people. Personal religion and spirituality I have no issue with, but organized religion is nothing but a way to control the masses. Of course, we could argue this back and forth until the forum explodes and get nowhere, so we'll just have to agree to disagree.

And don't assume I was referring just to the whole pedophilia thing. Let's not forget the Spanish Inquisition, the Crusades, persecution of Jews, and other number of things done in the name of God by the Catholic Church. And I use the Catholics only because it's a Catholic who's stirring up all the fuss. I'm well aware that no religion is squeaky clean, much as they might claim they are.


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aknddon3
aknddon3 writes:
on Jan 22 2007 07:47 PM

In reply to this comment (#853582)
Well i partially agree with you on the opium to the masses thing.

The Spanish Inquisition was also very much political, people forget that.

The Crusades started off completely justified but was very much more political than religious, they were threatened by the Muslim advances into their terrritory they needed to protect their land. THat was more political than religious.

Persecution of the Jews? WHat by chance are you talking about?


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Ashron
Ashron writes:
on Jan 22 2007 11:19 PM

In reply to this comment (#853583)
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Persecution_of_Jews

Granted, it was more of a general Christian thing and not the Catholics specifically, but they had a hand in it, though certainly not as bad as others.

Anyway, I never meant this to get off on a Catholic-bashing thing, so we'll move on from here and get back to discussing movies, shall we? And I like this new rational you. You should try it more often and I think people would take you more seriously and we could have some really good conversations. Later. It's late here in Salt Lake and I have to be up at 6:30 to make sure I'm at the Hound Dog screening. I'm going to bed.


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Kudos Mooney
Kudos Mooney writes:
on Jan 22 2007 11:57 PM

[b]::to aknddon3::[/b]
*ahem*

this house...is clean.


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aknddon3
aknddon3 writes:
on Jan 23 2007 01:17 AM

In reply to this comment (#853585)
What?

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Bane Of Anubis
Bane Of Anubis writes:
on Jan 23 2007 08:58 AM

In reply to this comment (#853582)
Someone's always going to try to take control... whether it's organized religion, individual autocrats, etc... On the whole, organized religion has provided a better framework for people to follow than general anarchy or totalatarian rule.

Ultimately, the masses need/want to be controlled to a certain degree. Unfortunately, the self-serving nature of Man creates an unpleasant dichotomy between unity and happiness.

Personally, I prefer individualism -- let me do what I want and you do what you want. But then people start stepping on each others toes and things spiral downhill after that.


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jpbresnihan
jpbresnihan writes:
on Jan 23 2007 10:25 AM

i am a democrat, and not catholic... and i still think its a little sick to have a 12 year old in a supposed graphic rape scene. yes it was dakota's choice, but the director should act professional and have hired someone older to play the part.

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Ashron
Ashron writes:
on Jan 23 2007 01:00 PM

Well, I saw Hounddog this morning and, as I suspected, people got their panties in a wad about nothing. The supposed "graphic" rape scene is anything but, and was very well handled, relying mostly on sound effects and facial reactions, the majority of the reactions handled by another boy witnessing the rape. You never see any skin on skin, the only "nudity" of Dakota is from the shoulders up, and the whole scene is maybe a minute and a half, and that includes the dance leading up to the rape. Only in a totalitarian regime would this scene even began to approach anything near the definition of pornography. Pick any prime-time drama and you'll see things ten times as graphic. Is the scene disturbing? Certainly, as it should be. But graphic? Not a chance. And it's a small part of a solid, well-told drama. So everyone can breath easier now. The republic will stand.

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the_shadow
the_shadow writes:
on Jan 24 2007 10:40 AM

In reply to this comment (#853589)
[b]Edit[/b]
methinks perhaps RT should now edit the part of the article that says Hounddog contains a graphic rape scene then, seeing as it is adding to the confusion, no?


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tamamellie
tamamellie writes:
on Jan 24 2007 10:44 AM

In reply to this comment (#853526)
Scanning through all the hoopla surrounding this issue this comment stuck out because it compares make-believe acts to children drinking and carrying guns, lol.

Film is an art that uses actors to portray a story. Everyone knows what to expect and, yes, her parents were on the sideline because they knew what to expect. How in the hell does a young actor agreeing to help portray a child being raped relate to mature young people literally killing people or getting married? It would be related to children portraying murders in film, which has already been done a million times and WHY DOESN'T ANYONE CARE THEN.

All these "prude" religious folk that protect thei own priests who are raping and molesting their own kids. Stop condeming an industry that depicts the actions your own leaders take part in. LALALLAA stop breeding.

Hopefully Dakota will be able to take part in many a rape scene when she's the ripe ole age of 18. Then it's A-OK.


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gsundt
gsundt writes:
on Jan 24 2007 12:03 PM

[b]TAXI DRIVER, you stupid people![/b]
Remember that movie where Bob DeNiro goes nuts and kills people? Well guess what? Jodie Foster played a prostitute in that movie. Complete with rape scenes and the like.

Now, most of us have not seen the Fanning movie, but I'm almost positive it is not more graphic than Taxi Driver. Blowing this up will do just what you all are suggesting: make the movie more popular.

So keep bitching, but you all sound stupid when Jodie Foster got nominated for the Academy Award for doing something probably not much worse.


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aknddon3
aknddon3 writes:
on Jan 24 2007 12:36 PM

In reply to this comment (#853591)
Oh yeah because i guess to you there is no difference between a 12 and an 18 year old.

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Bigbrother
Bigbrother writes:
on Jan 24 2007 02:11 PM

In reply to this comment (#853591)
The point I was trying to make is that a 12 year old no matter how mature for her age is not equipped to make such a decision and I am neither a prude nor overly religious and don't think not wanting to see the portrayal of a child being raped on film necessarily qualifies you as either. Also to your point I think the priests who molested those children should be punished to the fullest extent of the law, but I also think you shouldn't judge an entire religion based on the acts of a few of its employee's. Imagine if all the directors in Hollywood were judged against Roman Polanski's standard.

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tamamellie
tamamellie writes:
on Jan 25 2007 10:56 AM

In reply to this comment (#853594)
A few aka a whole HELL of a lot. If you haven't noticed, it's an epidemic.

I was raised Catholic. A priest that taught me molested about 5 of my classmates, sorry if I have a bad opinion but I do and always will. I just think that getting all upset over anything that is factual and being portrayed in a movie is silly. There's way too much in the REAL WORLD that we should pay attention to.


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tamamellie
tamamellie writes:
on Jan 25 2007 10:57 AM

In reply to this comment (#853593)
Lol, you didn't get that joke then did ya?

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gsundt
gsundt writes:
on Jan 25 2007 12:23 PM

In reply to this comment (#853593)
Jodie Foster was 14 when taxi Driver was made.

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aknddon3
aknddon3 writes:
on Jan 25 2007 01:54 PM

In reply to this comment (#853595)
Yeah except for the fact that it was not alot of people, i knew a priest that was accused by a little scumbag like you and it ended up being fake, like most of them are, but his rep was ruined by a loser like you.

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Kudos Mooney
Kudos Mooney writes:
on Jan 25 2007 03:06 PM

In reply to this comment (#853586)
i was refering to Poltergeist and the "cleansing of the demons"...that's about it.

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CannibalPenguins
CannibalPenguins writes:
on Jan 26 2007 12:53 AM

Dakota Fanning is a worm, let her get raped.

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Thundaar
Thundaar writes:
on Jan 27 2007 04:05 PM

Sounds like a bad idea for a film. I'm not sure why anyone would want to see it. Seems like if the idea was central to the story, it could have been done off camera (I know we only see her from the neck up).

To those saying that Catholics are protecting priests who committed crimes - you are wrong. While the church certainly was wrong and perhaps criminal by hiding some priest's crimes, most (if not all) Catholics are outraged by their actions. Also, there is just as much "moralizing" from those who are anti-religion/anti-Catholic on here as well.

Probably a discussion for a different website.


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