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See Saw with Alex, Day 2: Saw II
Enter round two.
by Alex Vo | October 16, 2009
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Day Two: Saw II

Fear, I think, is one of the essential components of movie watching that almost completely disappears as we grow older. When was the last time you sat down for a movie truly afraid of what images it was going to show you? As a kid, I'd wander the horror aisles of rental joints, filling my mind with the most horrific images based on these sun-blanched VHS covers. Of course, one day you man up and get the movies (or get your older brother to rent them) and watch them and they're nowhere near as bad as you imagined.

Having deliberately avoided movies broadly categorized as torture porn, I saw the first Saw afraid. Fear heightens your senses, gets you involved in the movie, and suspends your cynicism. I started watching Saw II with the idea of maintaining this level of emotion, but it was clear from the opening sequence that expending that much emotion would be unnecessary.

Saw II is more standard horror, with slicker production and bright, poppy cinematography. It's not the gut-wrencher its predecessor was, but it's also infinitely more enjoyable.

We're introduced to Eric Matthews (Donnie Wahlberg), a detective working close on the Jigsaw case. His team lucks out in finding Jigsaw in his lair, revealed as a pathetic cancer-ridden patient named John Kramer (Tobin Bell). Of course, the tables turn: eight people are revealed to be trapped in a house being slowly pumped with lethal gas, with one of them being Matthews's son. Then Jigsaw proposes a game: Matthews has to talk to him for a bit and his son will appear safe and sound.
Part of what made Saw so effective was its rough feel: there was no eye candy and it lacked a concrete identifiable villain. Saw II plays more into convention: there are hot chicks running around, the movie gives us two villains (Jigsaw himself, and Xavier, one of the house victims who slowly goes berserk) to root against (or root for, depending on your persuasion), and spends nearly half its running time as a police procedural, giving us plenty of story background.
If I had seen Saw in 2004 and waited that whole year for Saw II, I can see why this would be a kind of a disappointment. The traps aren't as inventive as in the original (they're actually kinda amusing) and the dramatic writing isn't exactly top-caliber. But this movie was just compelling enough, and "just enough" is perfectly adequate for a marathon. Watching these in rapid succession, it feels like I'm watching a full DVD season of some really gross, really disgusting TV show.

And I dug the final twist. Matthews, having gone off the rails, beats, tortures, and drives Jigsaw to the house, discovering only a trap: he gets chained up in the same bathroom from the original, his son is revealed safe in Jigsaw's lair and Amanda (survivor of the reverse beartrap in the first) as Jigsaw's protégé. Definitely a more logical plot twist than the original.

Is Saw II scary? Not at all. But I did get wrapped up in the drama and increased gore content. Ask me if I would prefer terror or entertainment night after night, I wouldn't hesitate to choose the latter.
Body count: 7.

Most inventive trap: A pit full of hypodermic needles. Shawnee Smith is 2 for 2!

Stupid person in a horror movie moment: Using a key on a door when specifically instructed not to. Sort of an obvious one.

See Saw schedule:
  • Day 1 (10/15): Saw (2004)
  • Day 2 (10/16): Saw II (2005)
  • Day 3 (10/19): Saw III (2006)
  • Day 4 (10/20): Saw IV (2007)
  • Day 5 (10/21): Saw V (2008)
  • Day 6 (10/23): Saw VI (2009)
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rle4lunch
rle4lunch writes:
on Oct 16 2009 06:18 PM

Yeah, I think the inventivness starts to slip in this one, but gains traction again in the upcoming sequels. I remember sitting in the theater for Saw II and sorta liked the plot twist with Shawnee's character, but really thought the acting was awful from the rest of them. The cops did okay I guess. Saw III was a big letdown for me. Saw IV was more enjoyable than 2-3 for me..

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The Great One
The Great One writes:
on Oct 16 2009 06:37 PM

Its all downhill from here Alex.

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ledawg1138
ledawg1138 writes:
on Oct 16 2009 06:56 PM

I saw a little of this. It's about the same as the first, just, minus the original feel. In short, meh. I skipped Saw III and saw Saw IV...heh heh, I saw Saw, that's funny...not really.

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THECOWBELLHASSPOKEN
THECOWBELLHASSPOKEN writes:
on Oct 16 2009 08:14 PM

i prefer saw 2 over 1. i like 1 also even though the guy who is in the room with gordon is possibly the most annoying man on the face of the earth.

saw 3 is pretty good but it drags in some spots. kinda was worn out from saw after that so i never got around to 4 or 5 or 893


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The Infallible Mr Jessop
The Infallible Mr Jessop writes:
on Oct 16 2009 08:33 PM

I've reached the point where I honestly don't know if any movie will ever scare me ever again. Which is kinda scary, really.

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DanielthePhantasm XIX
DanielthePhantasm XIX writes:
on Oct 16 2009 09:10 PM

5 consecutive years of Saw lol

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Park M.
Park M. writes:
on Oct 16 2009 10:16 PM

Saw II is my favorite of the Saw flicks. But as that dude before me said, it's all downhill from here Alex. Get ready for a bunch of stinkers.

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Jason D.
Jason D. writes:
on Oct 16 2009 10:19 PM

I thought this was one of the worst ones(i haven't seen 4). Though I agree the twisted at the end was a good one the rest of the movie was terrible. The acting was ugly (yes, I agree Cary Elwes was bad in Saw) and some of the characters were just wasteful. I thought they could have developed it more and had a chance for a good horror trilogy instead of a cheap typical one. That being said, I do enjoy some of the saws for the traps, props and effects and appreciate the hard work that goes into the prosthetics(sp). I just think the 2nd one is the weakest in the series.

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TheEmoPianist
TheEmoPianist writes:
on Oct 16 2009 10:22 PM

The first Saw will always be the best one. The second one was mediocre, the third one, though an improvement of the second one, was still mediocre. However, the 4th and 5th one (Especially the fifth one) fricken ruined the series completely by convoluting the plot so terribly that it makes less sense than all of the seasons of LOST and X-Files combined. The 6th may have the chance to redeem itself since it's not directed by the same guy who did 5, but still, the first one is the absolute best one.

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Endless River
Endless River writes:
on Oct 16 2009 10:24 PM

I laughed all the way through Saw II. That was before i grew bored with the pathetic formula and eventually offended by America's reprehensibly bad taste. These movies are below criticism, not that that matters. Fans won't listen to criticism anyway. I always find it baffling that people come to Rotten Tomatoes to discuss the Saw series. Yes, Rotten Tomatoes, where every critic obliterates the very movie they came to discuss. Kinda funny, really, like Saw II.

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Brian R.
Brian R. writes:
on Oct 16 2009 11:30 PM

The Eric Mathews beat down at the end was amazing...then he stops for a few seconds just to snap Jigsaw's finger....when Jigsaw says "G..game...game over..." in that weak, old man help me voice i was like heeellllll ya you got ur *** beat!!!! I saw the Amanda twist early, right as she found the tape and was like "everything u need to know is on this tape", but the "safe place" twist and Mathews being in the right house and the entire SWAT team finding out they were watching a tape...wheeewww, that rocked my socks...I thought the main twists and all the little ones like "woooaaahh, its the same bathroom!" were great....watching SAW 3 after this is going to feel a little "so what?" ish...but that all changed for me after watching 4, which is still my favorite.

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Brian R.
Brian R. writes:
on Oct 16 2009 11:39 PM

response to cowbell....that other guy is actually Leigh Whannell (sp?)...one of the creators of SAW, the part-director, writer, and while he's a horrible actor, ya gotta admit the dude is great at twists...but ya, ur right, he should never act again......I thought Xavier was the most annoying in this one, but the black guy from Showgirls sucked too...the chick from 7th Heaven was one of the best of the house victims which says something about the acting quality...

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ARTaylor
ARTaylor writes:
on Oct 17 2009 12:19 AM

This was the last Saw movie I saw, and the one where I really stopped caring. Like I said about the first one, seeing people die horribly isn't interesting and doesn't scare. It's typical sequel fare, feeling like more of the same. Though this twist was infinitely more interesting than the last one.

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Mr. Bo Ziffer
Mr. Bo Ziffer writes:
on Oct 17 2009 08:01 AM

Excellent article, Alex. You do a good job of fleshing out what is really good about this series (some would argue that NOTHING is good about this series, but whatever). I will disagree with you about your favorite trap, though. The needle pit is my second favorite, but my personal favorite is when the girl gets her hands stuck in the glass box. It's so simple, yet so effective. Not to mention that watching people cut their wrists is the only thing that makes me cringe nowadays!

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fullmetalnek
fullmetalnek writes:
on Oct 17 2009 08:05 AM

This is the only Saw I dig. I mean it's ok. Really dislike the first, and the other ones... it's funny... I swear I've seen them (except V) but I just don't remember anything about the plot, just images and the feeling of being deeply uninvolved with them. Can't say what killings belong to what movie. Looking foward for the next entry to see if I can make any sense of it all.

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Gordon Franklin Terry Sr
Gordon Franklin Terry Sr writes:
on Oct 17 2009 10:46 AM

I will never get old or become too grown-up to be afraid:
The last time was FINAL DESTINATION I saw for the first time two years ago.

and MY BLOODY VALENTINE 3D I saw last year.


never grow old.

play video games or whatever you always used to do as a kid that you love and you'll never grow up.

actually; I think its just me.

(you'll still have had undergone ALL the life experience of almost 40 years BUT . . .you can still be made afraid of the dark though---stay young by being young (for me its videogames [emulators and my sons games] for someone else it may be basketball or Ice Cream or comic books or dungeons and dragons)

stay young..


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Colyn B.
Colyn B. writes:
on Oct 17 2009 01:10 PM

I really enjoyed SAW 1, 2 and 3 I think it was, but last years SAW 4? I dunno it was awful as hell. Hopefully, this year will recapture the magic the first couple entries had.

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KingSigy
KingSigy writes:
on Oct 17 2009 02:41 PM

Colyn, wasn't last year Saw V?

Anyway, these just sound stupider than the first one. It's not like the premise of these movies was very original (it ripped off a videogame that no one really played), but they just continue the same thing for the sequel. It also sounds bad that everything is less inventive, meaning that the first one really is the best. I guess if you hate the first, this series will never work for you.

I can see your final conclusion, though. It probably would be hell to watch 5 horror movies in a row and be terrified of each. But that just gives me proof that these movies aren't horror, just torture porn.


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ColinTheCimmerian
ColinTheCimmerian writes:
on Oct 17 2009 02:59 PM

I liked this entry. My initial reaction was that it was better than the first, and I still feel that the plot is more engaging and thoughtful, and Donnie Wahlberg's character is much more likable than anybody in the first movie, but the absolutely rotten acting in all the house scenes just kills it for me now. There was a major decline in cast quality from the first to second movies. I think of all the movies I've ever seen, this one has the biggest entertainment drop-off from first viewing to second (and any subsequent) viewings. The plot twists are awesome, but once you know what's coming, the major source of entertainment is disipated, and there's not much to do but slog through the D-grade performances in all the house scenes. It's still one of the better entries, but I put it behind the first because at least the first was a well made movie in general and stands up to repeated viewings, even when the twist isn't a twist anymore.

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Jon C.
Jon C. writes:
on Oct 17 2009 04:59 PM

Saw II made me more excited about the franchise
the 1st one was classical but the sequel pretty much amped up the franchise


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