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Richard Kelly Tells Southland Tales of Love and Devotion
Richard Kelly talks with RT about his long-awaited opus.
by Sara Schieron | November 14, 2007
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Richard Kelly The fan base that rallied around Donnie Darko has for years been anxiously awaiting the release of Richard Kelly's second film, Southland Tales, scouring the film's abstract website and three prequel graphic novels in anticipation of its release. And then came the infamous 2006 Cannes screening, where the film premiered to a near-historic critical harpooning. Since then Kelly has spent a considerable amount of money to augment the special effects and now, more than a year later, he's revealed a shorter, more distributor-friendly picture. Although cameo sequences with Janeane Garofalo are now on the cutting room floor, the film boasts abundant acting talent and a cache of cultural references that rivals Jean-Luc Godard's Histoire(s) du cinema in sheer volume. Kelly calls it "apocalyptic science fiction film noir," but as he explains, the film reaches ever further than that.

Southland Tales opens in the fascist, media-debased near future. Our navigators through this profligate America are an amnesiac named Boxer Santos (Dwayne "The Rock" Johnson), and Ronald Taverner (Seann William Scott), a cop who has unwittingly been embroiled in a secret agenda by neo-Marxist rebels. Private Abilene (Justin Timberlake) is the narrator and askew conscience of the film, whose off-kilter prophecies describe a distorted America that bears a pointed resemblance to our own. Kelly's film is a pastiche of references from many facets of media and culture funneled as if through a funhouse mirror. CNN screens display images of technology that look like Metropolis by way of Mel Brooks. The futurist nightmares of William Gibson and Thomas Pynchon are explored with the snark of Mike Judge (Idiocracy). Philip K. Dick shares the stage with noir classic Kiss Me Deadly, as well as Repo Man, Mad Max, Satyricon, and Brazil. This wouldn't seem so odd if it didn't also recall so much of The Gospel According to John.

Literary and pop references aside, what Kelly has built is as much a mythology as it is a fever dream about today's America. And though it may divide critics and take time to attract new audiences, Kelly is putting forward a work that few would attempt and none could imitate.



Richard Kelly on the set of Southland Tales



Tell me about the flag on the cover of Book 1: Two Roads Diverge. It's also behind Mandy Moore in one of her last scenes with Dwayne Johnson. It looks like a Jasper Johns cut in half. Is that original art?

Richard Kelly: That is original art by my friend J. Kelly. He did that art as a collage right after 9-11. I was over at his house and he did it over a couple nights. It thought it was pretty powerful. I said, "That's the movie I'm getting ready to make! That's Southland Tales! That's what it's about. That painting." So it became an icon to the film.

One of your prequel graphic novels is called The Mechanicals. This is named for the improv group? Tell me a bit about them.

RK: They're an eight-person comedy troupe that I stumbled upon a few years ago. They used to hang out at Barney's Beanery and we used to go drinking together. Abby McBride who plays one of the porn star girls -- two of the girls are mechanicals, Starla, the girl who stalks Dwayne on the beach with the gun is a Mechanical, the Asian kid who gets shot on the toilet is a Mechanical. They're spread all throughout the movie. I just thought their comedy was brilliant. I used to run around with video cameras and do little sketch comedy stuff with them over the years and they became good friends of mine and they were all struggling so I thought, I'd give them all parts in the movie and name the third chapter after them.



Seann William Scott in Southland Tales


The toy soldier crawling on the LA street, was that a reference to the toy monkey in Rebel Without A Cause?

RK: No, that's funny you would mention that. I stumbled upon that toy soldier when I was doing research in Venice and it was raining the morning we shot that and we stuck the soldier on the pavement and we got this great shot and it was absurd, it was trippy, disturbing funny and brought up all these emotions looking at this toy soldier on the pavement. I thought it was emblematic of the futility of conflict or war. It may be Justin's character a little bit: A mechanical pawn the government is using.

Johnson's character as well.

RK: Yeah, alone on the wet pavement in Venice. It's one of my favorite shots in the movie and it's something we did as a whim that became something significant.

This film is so packed with references. Why did you feel a need to construct your film with such thick references? Do you think that's become a tool for critical division?

RK: Well, you talked about that painting: Resolved, the American flag divided in two. That's a piece of collage art. He [J. Kelly] has taken newspaper headlines and images from American history and he's embedded them into a collage and I wanted this film to be like a big piece of pop art and if you think about the way we use product placement in the movie, the way we use pop culture and music, we sort of put them into this kaleidoscope blender. I think at its base level I see it more as influenced by Philip K. Dick or Thomas Pynchon or Raymond Chandler -- apocalyptic, science fiction, film noir. That's where it's rooted stylistically. If you go to LA, you're surrounded by pop culture faces and products and billboards. LA is a collage. It's like a gigantic messy collage with everything flowing together. And I wanted it to feel like LA. Not only that, the fragmentation you see on CNN and the news screens and quad screens, that's the way life feels and I thought the movie should be reflection of Los Angeles life and it all came together that way.
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Bilent_slob
Bilent_slob writes:
on Nov 14 2007 03:33 PM

Global warming? Iraq? Looks like someone's got a case of the "I'm a celebtrity that knows eberything about poilitics and I'll tell you so every chance I get". Still looking forward to the movie.

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Pokerstar317
Pokerstar317 writes:
on Nov 14 2007 03:34 PM

Great Interview!

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pwnsauce3k
pwnsauce3k writes:
on Nov 14 2007 05:38 PM

Everyone thinks they know everything about everything. Some people just have bigger soapboxes and louder megaphones.

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FranklinStreet
FranklinStreet writes:
on Nov 14 2007 06:00 PM

Pwnsauce, just because you make a movie about something doesn't mean you think you know everything about everything... simply that the subject matter interets you and you'd like to get people think about it and talking about it more.

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jacketman
jacketman writes:
on Nov 14 2007 06:06 PM

People are annoyingly dense.

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Snarebeast
Snarebeast writes:
on Nov 14 2007 11:17 PM

Wait...Kevin Smith got cut? DAMN IT!!!

I guess I'll still see it, but sadly that was my motivating factor.


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Orangecinema
Orangecinema writes:
on Nov 14 2007 11:20 PM

Bilent slob & pwnsauce: Granted, kelly has a bigger stage than most to say whats on his mind, but its his film, isn't this precisely where he's supposed to express how he feels?

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Tabor27
Tabor27 writes:
on Nov 15 2007 08:31 AM

I loved Donnie Darko but always thought it could have been better cast. (Patrick Swayze, Drew Barrymore, Jena Malone, Jake Gylenhaal) It sounds like another Richard Kelly masterpiece may not reach its full potential by way of casting. I mean c'mon, Duane "The Rock" Johnson, Sean William Scott, Justin Timberlake?? Give me a break. I could find more talent in a garbage can. Hopefully this movie's strength will be in the sybolism and cinematogrophy because I'm not expecting much from the characters. Good luck Richard, I hope you avoid sophmore slump status.

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bobbyhacker
bobbyhacker writes:
on Nov 15 2007 09:17 AM

In reply to this comment (#1276757)
Whats eberything?

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dahluzz
dahluzz writes:
on Nov 15 2007 10:18 AM

After the abismal trailer, I needed to hear some solid answers to the sort of questions that were asked in order to believe in this movie. Unfortunately, Kelley seems unsure of what he actually wants to say. "My life feels like a movie"? that's complete hollywood hogwash. Then Sara basically spoon-fed him the response about destiny, which he proceeded to make ambiguous. Kelly's mystique has given way to incoherent jargon about metephysics. Oh, and the schizo angle is only one of the biggest tropes in developing a "multi-faceted" character, not to mention it was done IN DONNIE DARKO.
Good interview, unsettling responses.


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thamoviemann
thamoviemann writes:
on Nov 15 2007 08:36 PM

In reply to this comment (#1277903)
Are you serious, Justin Timberlake can act-watch Alpha Dog and Black snake Moan. The Rock proved he can act in Gridiron Gang. Anyways this movie is pretty good, original story but a couple of weird moments. But i recommend it.

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lesmurphy44
lesmurphy44 writes:
on Nov 16 2007 08:25 AM

Donnie Darko wouldn't have been half the hit it was if it wasn't for Jake Gyllenhall who is one of the best actors around. Now with one movie under his belt he's using The Rock, Stifler, and JT...this guys just asking for this movie to suck.
Even if it's written well I guarantee the acting will be atrocious...Go to hell Richard Kelly


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starvoy
starvoy writes:
on Nov 17 2007 11:20 AM

BETTER THAN DONNIE DARKO. I was expecting the worst because of all the bad reviews but the movie I saw was a masterpiece...this is the kind of movie that will be appreciated more 100 years from now than it is today. I think all of the people turning up their nose at this movie are the same people that don't like to think too hard.

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oyguvaltshappy
oyguvaltshappy writes:
on Nov 18 2007 07:06 PM

the movie was terrific, and i'm glad at least a bit more of it got cleared up for me here, since it was really hard to understand.

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jokerboy1991
jokerboy1991 writes:
on Nov 20 2007 02:55 PM

In reply to this comment (#1279426)
no, this movie sucked!

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jokerboy1991
jokerboy1991 writes:
on Nov 20 2007 02:57 PM

In reply to this comment (#1279426)
no, this movie sucked!, it was a huge disapointment. There were so many sub-plots, that didnt make sense. It when it was suppose to be corny it wasnt funny or cool, just plain stupid. Its bascially a crappy political version of Donnie Darko

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Psicanzuelo
Psicanzuelo writes:
on Nov 20 2007 05:23 PM

It would have been nice to hear about his reasons for the last cut, and if the other cut is going to get released!

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ch0colatesyrup
ch0colatesyrup writes:
on Dec 05 2007 11:07 PM

i still want to see this ;( i bet i'll like it, no matter what ya'll got to say that's negative.

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jokerboy1991
jokerboy1991 writes:
on Mar 08 2008 08:11 PM

In reply to this comment (#1292227)
I take it back, I saw it again and now I think Its really good, I realized all the biblical refrances which are great. I like how KELLY mixed politics and religion represented by PULP CULTURE which is great. Its a little sloppy, I wanna see a DIRECTOR'S CUT with more of that footage with more explaining and I wanna see what GARAFFALO'S scenes were like. Grade B , Im sure the DIRECTOR'S CUT (inevitable will come on DVD someday) will be better.

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jokerboy1991
jokerboy1991 writes:
on Mar 08 2008 08:12 PM

In reply to this comment (#1292227)
even though it did bad in theatures, this is sure to be a CULT classic.

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