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Brandon Routh Talks Superman's Future

by | July 03, 2009

Summary

Whatever happens next for the "Superman" franchise, it appears that Brandon Routh won't be wearing that big "S" and cape -- in a new interview, he says his contract with Warner Bros. has expired. Back to Article

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stupydcow writes:
on Jul 05 2009 05:00 PM

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Lol...dude the movie still sucked. It really wasn't that good. I didn't really see a Character driven movie either...the whole thing was bland. Lex was the same as Superman in that movie, except one was good one was even. The Characters seemed so Black and White to me.

I don't get the homage crap either. You can give homage in a completely new movie with a completely new direction, but the whole movie itself was homage...that is lame.

The problem with the stalker issue is this. At the end of Superman 2 he erases Lois's memory of her knowledge of his true identity. Why in the sequel to that he all of sudden thinks they can still be together or hes mad that this happened. I felt that in part 2 when he erased her memory he was sorta letting her go. Also if Lois's memory was erased wouldn't she be wondering who the hell the kids father is, but she knows it was Supermans...how? So she remembers bits and pieces of what happened between her and Superman?

Why does this Superman who can hear everyones thoughts in Space need to be at her house to know what she is doing...it was creepy. I just felt that one of the main plot points in this movie doesn't add up with the previous films. Why should Superman be surprised when he himself erased her memory, sorta letting her go...then he leaves and he comes back surprised shes moved on? It is lame!

There are plot holes and creepiness in this movie. Honestly, I could just forget it ever happened and I feel the world would be a better place. I know it's just a movie but something really didn't sit well with me when watching this...I had high hopes as Superman was one of my favorite hero's as a kid. In the end just as a movie it sucked. It really wasn't funny at all either...AT ALL!!! Everyone seemed to have a bug up their @ss.

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stupydcow writes:
on Jul 05 2009 05:00 PM

...one was evil.

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Bigbrother writes:
on Jul 05 2009 05:48 PM

hmmmm, I didn't think the characters were black and white at all. Oddly, because of some of the things you mentioned as faults. Superman had several issues where he didn't necessarily come across as the clear cut good guy in the way he did in the original movies. You could be right about him letting Lois go, but lets not forget years had passed. Is Superman not allowed to change his mind. I suspect you'd be surprised how five years in space changes you perspective. Plus, there's the matter of the kid. Ask anyone in real life when kids enter the equation things change.

One of the best things in the film I thought was that Superman wasn't necessarily the better man in the love triangle. I thought that was an interesting dynamic and Singer should have been applauded for not taking the short cut and giving Marsden some flaw that would have excused Lois leaving him for Superman. I guess one mans creepy is another man's romantic.

I can see where you're coming from and can even sympathize I feel the same way about Terminator: Salvation and Indy 4, but other people disagree and that's cool. That's what makes debate fun. Have a good one. Sadly it's not in either of our hands, we'll have to see what WB decides.

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rizzyh writes:
on Jul 05 2009 05:59 PM

Personally, i love to discuss comic books, but I'm reeeeeaaaallly tired of the whole portrayal of Superman in the movies thing, because i think everyone can agree that they just don't seem to get it right despite decades of trying. I'd rather talk about the character in other mediums, like, say TV.

I'm totally with Ultimale069, There really is no better portrayal of Superman than the 90s Dini/Timm cartoons. Hell, before Nolan came along, i would've guessed that was true for Batman as well, so i will always hold out for a live action Superman portrayal that does justice to the character and that everyone can unanimously love. But so far, things aren't so promising: SMALLVILLE is probably the longest running Superman series ever on TV, and they have gotten progressively worse with every episode. What seemed interesting in the beginning: Superman without the suit and flying, has gotten so monotonous and painstakingly bad that watching an episode is like subjecting yourself to torture. Forget Superman Returns, Quest for Peace is better than whole seasons of that crappy show.

For all you guys that think they can't possibly go wrong with DOOMSDAY, just watch last season's finale: they built up Doomsday the whole frea.kin' season, only to have him fight Clark for about 15 seconds and then disappear with literally no rhyme or reason. I mean, jeez, Batman had his embarrassingly cheesy TV phase in the 70s, but that was on purpose!!!

It really isn't about the writers of movies, i'm sure they tried really hard. It's just that Superman's Nolan hasn't been born yet. Until then, we will have so-so movies and even cheesier TV shows to live with. I'm just thankful for awesome comic writers and those amazing Superman & Justice League cartoons that make us all believe that there is an amazing story just waiting to be told.

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stupydcow writes:
on Jul 05 2009 07:22 PM

In reply to this comment (#2521430)
lol, we agree to disagree. I agree with Indy 4 also. I thought Terminator Salvation was okay at best...I was a bit disappointed at it but what can you do.

We'll just have to see what they do for future installments and yes I think the debate is fun. Take it easy.

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moviebuff#1 writes:
on Jul 05 2009 07:30 PM

Superman Returns was a decent movie, but it was also extremy flawed. They should focus less on what will make money and make an actual brilliant Superman movie. Like Spider-Man 2 and The Dark Knight, create a dark universe with deep characters and also leave room for some humor and action sequences...

My opinion?

Throw out the playbook, start from scrath. Get a new actor to play Superman and tell an origin story, and then plan around a sequel where you can play off a predescesor. Bring back characters from the first movie (the origin movie) and then create consequences for them. Introduce Luther in one, but limit his role. Then make his role in the sequel bigger.

This is my plan for how to fix Superman.

I am currently writing a The Last Son of Krypton script.

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Paints Hz Shirt Red writes:
on Jul 05 2009 09:01 PM

In reply to this comment (#2520957)
wrong.

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Bob S. writes:
on Jul 05 2009 09:59 PM

Way too tired to engage in a point-by-point dissection of SUPERMAN RETURNS' strenghts and weaknesses, but I will say this about box office and budget: the numbers you see are GROSS figures, not NET figures. Yes the movie took in $200M domestic, BUT the theaters get about half and the studio comes out with the other half. The international take is even dicier when you factor in foreign market distributing, dubbing costs, etc. Did the movie make its money back? Probably did when DVD and rental fees are factored in, but it wasn't a $120 million profit just from the international take minus the production budget.

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Bob S. writes:
on Jul 05 2009 10:24 PM

Oh, and Matanuki:

I was willing to give Cap another shot if he was man enough to apologize for his past behavior and say that he wanted another chance. But if a guy doesn't ask for a second chance, I'm not gonna bother giving him one. I think it's fairly obvious that the new incarnation is not very different from the old.

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Matanuki writes:
on Jul 06 2009 02:48 AM

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Agreed.

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rle4lunch writes:
on Jul 06 2009 02:05 PM

I've said this before, and I'll say it again. Transformers and Superman (or Batman, or any other superhero) cannot really be put in the same ballpark as one another. Comparing the two is just stupid. I will say this though.

SR was alright. Routh is the man for the character, eff getting someone else, just give him a better story. Singers take on it was a good premise, and I loved his coloring of the whole movie, very beautiful to look at. Just kinda boring. Keep Routh though, he brings back the original nostalgic feel that Reeve's created.

Batman Begins, was ALRIGHT. I really didn't think it was spectacular, but it was the best superhero movie to come out in a long time, so it was welcomed with open arms (because nothing else could compare at the time, not because it was so great). TDK was much better than BB, but there were a lot of flaws in that movie as well (HBO has been airing it about 5 times a day, so you really get a chance to pick that sh.it apart with multiple viewings).

I just saw Transformers 2 yesterday for the first time. I thought it was okay. The special effects kicked the living sh.it out of anything out there to date. The movie really didn't have a plot, but it had a better one than the first one. And once Bay started the explosion fest, it didn't let up for 2 hours. With that said, I did enjoy it for the most part, and I don't understand the hate for it as much as it's getting on RT.

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Matanuki writes:
on Jul 06 2009 06:02 PM

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All these films are comparable on the merits of storytelling. And they're all mythologies involving heroes and villains, templates based in archetypes both classic and new. It can be argued either way. But calling the comparison "stupid" isn't really saying anything.

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tabascoman77 writes:
on Jul 06 2009 06:21 PM

If Andrew Kruzel were here, I would agree with him on Transformers 2. I actually liked it.

Come on, Andrew! Agree with me!

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rle4lunch writes:
on Jul 06 2009 08:21 PM

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Hey Mata, long time..

true I guess, but for someone like me, that didn't dive into any of the comics growing up, this discussion is quite topical, so 'stupid' was the first word that came to mind. i wasn't bashing on anyone though...

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whitey_mcwhite writes:
on Jul 07 2009 12:01 PM

I'm a little late to the conversation, but I keep hearing people talk about a kryptonite continent. The island/ continent was not completely made of kryptonite, the island was made of crystal and Lex Luthor fused the crystal with kryptonite to make it toxic to Superman. When Superman removes the island, he's not taking a complete island made of kryptonite, he's taking an island with bits of krytonite mixed in. When you think of it in that context it makes more sense.

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whitey_mcwhite writes:
on Jul 07 2009 12:20 PM

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MagicisMight: How is this for a Transformers 2 plothole: In the first Transformers film the robots have a massive fight in the streets of Los Angeles (one of the biggest cities in America) with thousands of people there to witness it. Now at the beginning of Transformers 2 they are completely underground, the attack in LA completely forgotten and the Transformers (giant f-ing robots that destroyed a massive city) are just a rumor. That's a massive gaping hole dude!

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whitey_mcwhite writes:
on Jul 07 2009 01:43 PM

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rizzyh: Actually, there was a rhyme and reason to what happened with Doomsday when you think about it. The place that Doomsday ended up is the place that he will eventually break from in the comics which depict the future from where we are at now in Smallville. And while I wouldn't argue that the show will ever reach the greatness it had in season 2, 3, 5, and 6 I don't think it's gotten horrible. The seasons aren't great now, but episodes show glimmers of the greatness they used to have. Personally, I think they should have stopped when Rosenbaum left.

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whitey_mcwhite writes:
on Jul 07 2009 02:20 PM

Now for my feelings on the matter:

I, personally, would prefer that they give Singer a go at the sequel. It seemed like he was planning to go in a much different direction, more of the angry god direction which could be very interesting. I think people are too quick to dismiss him for making a good, but not great Superman movie. (A lot of people are complaining that the movie was boring, but that doesn't make the movie bad on a technical level, and I'm happy that Singer didn't feel the need to overladen the movie with effects and explosions just because he could like some people do. Sorry, I couldn't help myself there.)

At the same time, I would also like a reboot. Superman has changed in the comic medium since the last series came out from comics that inspired the Donner and Lester movies. I think Luthor still has his place in the mythology, but not in his current movie incarnation. In all reality Luthor should be a brilliant scientist who's research has won the world's affections and he's someone that everyone listens to. He could be used as a pawn of a higher power to sway public opinion against Superman.

I would probably use the first half of Superman: Birthrite to stage a reboot. You start off with Clark Kent the globetrotting free lance reporter trying to find himself, but then decides to come back to Smallville. From there he decides that he wants to try and get a job at the Daily Planet so he can help with crime and keep an eye on if people are coming close to finding out who he is. We see his parents and him come up with the human "costume" to mask who he is.

This can make up the first half of the movie and from the time he gets to Metropolis and starts his work as Superman we can see Brainiac meeting with a Lex Luthor who has massive influence and pull in the community who will start calling for Superman to account for himself as an alien who has come to earth as the beginning of a full scale invasion. You could even bring in another character like Zod who could be hailed as the answer to Superman, a former Kryptonian general who didn't believe in his world's plans to invade a world like Earth of lesser people. This naturally conflicts in Clark Kent's mind because he doesn't know much of the world he comes from.

I think this would make a great set up for a first movie of a new series, and the three villains are not all meant to be fought by Superman and at least 2 of them can be reused for that reason. You have the mouth of the villains (Lex Luthor), the brain (Brainiac), and the brawn (Zod). That's what I think they should do if they reboot it.

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